1200GS V FIREBLADE

[Russ]

If the manual does declare it, it will be 0-62 and 3.4 sounds mighty optimistic to be honest. Various sources (i.e. real world bike mag tests) have it pegged at approx 4.2. If it's under 4 then I'd not only be surprised but also rather pleased as I find the 0-60 dash a lot of fun .

Out of interest does anyone know if 60 would be reached without a gear change?


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Its declared on the press release here (scroll to the bottom)

0-100km/h - 3.4 seconds

100km/h / 1.6093 = 62.1mph

ISTR it will do about 55 in first

It's good for 132mph (real (confirmed by GPS), as opposed to Jap bikes with over-reading speedos)

'Busa does about 3.1 seconds for comparison

 

[GSmonkey]

Blade should beat you every time off the line:

 

[GSmonkey]

....but when you come to put the brakes on....you can stop and make him a cuppa whilst he's coming to a halt

 

[Aurelius]

I seriously doubt this and think it's more likely to be around 4-4.5, so would be very interested in where you got that info.


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Well, I'm looking at MCN's Performance Index, where the 0-60mph for the 1200GS was timed at 3.62 seconds, compared to the Fireblade's 3.19 seconds. Nice fantasy while it lasted, though.

 

[Russ]

Well, I'm looking at MCN's Performance Index, where the 0-60mph for the 1200GS was timed at 3.62 seconds, compared to the Fireblade's 3.19 seconds. Nice fantasy while it lasted, though.

hmmmm, MCN

 

[jonboy]

Its declared on the press release here (scroll to the bottom)

0-100km/h - 3.4 seconds

100km/h / 1.6093 = 62.1mph

ISTR it will do about 55 in first

It's good for 132mph (real (confirmed by GPS), as opposed to Jap bikes with over-reading speedos)

'Busa does about 3.1 seconds for comparison

Well that's a dealer's website not BMW's so I'd take their figures with a small pinch of salt. However they list the top speed as 208 kmh (128) but your post says 132 (obviously from another source, and note that Bike magazine puts this at 136).

Obviously there will be a small variation on each bike and also the skills of the test rider and indeed the weather/road conditions at the time but I have to say this is looking encouraging and if the GS12 gets to 60 in under 4 secs then that will do me nicely.

As for the braking figures, wow! The new GS is quite amazing - squeeze tight and hold on .


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[TheJoker]

- squeeze tight and hold on .

Exactly what I've been telling my girlfriend too...

 

[Russ]

Well that's a dealer's website not BMW's so I'd take their figures with a small pinch of salt. However they list the top speed as 208 kmh (128) but your post says 132 (obviously from another source, and note that Bike magazine puts this at 136).

Obviously there will be a small variation on each bike and also the skills of the test rider and indeed the weather/road conditions at the time but I have to say this is looking encouraging and if the GS12 gets to 60 in under 4 secs then that will do me nicely.

As for the braking figures, wow! The new GS is quite amazing - squeeze tight and hold on .


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It is an excerpt from the BMW press release.

ISTR the same information is on HMarc's website www.r1200gs.info

If you can find the original press release it will undoubtedly be on there too.

I was running out of road when i hit 132, so it may well have pushed on a bit more, but i will wait to try it on a french autoroute

I checked last night and for those that are interested, first gear peaks at 52mph

 

[jonboy]

I was running out of road when i hit 132, so it may well have pushed on a bit more, but i will wait to try it on a french autoroute

Ah, I see, sorry thought that was a mag statistic. Out of interest what did the clock show at that GPS speed?

I checked last night and for those that are interested, first gear peaks at 52mph

A short first gear, just as I like it. So I would assume that the optimal change point would likely be just past peak torque, which would be what, 40ish?


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[TheJoker]

A short first gear, just as I like it. So I would assume that the optimal change point would likely be just past peak torque, which would be what, 40ish?

If you have perfect gearing, you will change at peak power to change down to peak torque. But this is most important in racing, so road vehicles usually have wider torque and power bands.

 

[Russ]

Ah, I see, sorry thought that was a mag statistic. Out of interest what did the clock show at that GPS speed?



A short first gear, just as I like it. So I would assume that the optimal change point would likely be just past peak torque, which would be what, 40ish?


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GPS was showing 132mph...disturbingly accurate My VFR would claim i was doing 150mph but the GPS confirmed it to be 135

I wouldn't honsetly know, it seems to contiuously produce lots of power and torque from very low revs and keep going all the way to the red line, so optimum shift is where you can be bothered to shift, unlike any other bike i have ridden where you need to think about what revs the next gear will produce at that speed.

 

[TerryM]

Something wrong here!!!!!!

....but when you come to put the brakes on....you can stop and make him a cuppa whilst he's coming to a halt

Hi Monkey,

In my shed I have a 2001 Blade and the brakes are some of the best fitted to any road bike now or ever. I ride it on the same roads as the 12GS and others, and from a ton they are like the hand of god.
Those Bike numbers must be suspect as I do not believe that big H have downgraded the 2004 Blade in this area. No denying the 12GS has great brakes, but then ABS could have a lot to do with how most(99.999%^64 me included)riders can use them.

Terry

 

[GSmonkey]

I tend to agree terry. I'm just off a CBR6 and that could brake faster than the blade in this test. I'd suggest its a typo by whoever was compliling the figures. Even if you ignore the blade's figures as an error, the 12 has some impressive braking.

Of all the bikes in the test I'd put the Gixer 750 as the milestone bike to beat - this is the most rideable of all the current crop of sportsbikes.

But quite what the point in comparing the 12 to any sportsbike, I'm not sure. I was out and about on the roads today in the snow, salt and crud............didn't see a single blade to race all day!!!

 

[TerryM]

In snow lovie?????????

Almost the same here Monkey, but the proportion of true bike nuts is somewhat greater. But then I can leave home and be on the Dundrod G.P. circuit(7 plus mile lap) in fifteen minutes and a little more to Tandragee. The North West takes about the hour.

The roads here are busy around Belfast, for a couple of hours m&e, so going to the coast almost any day is a joy. And you cannot imagine the offshore islands, having huge breeding colonies of birds, like something out of David Attenb' on BBC 2.

I know all at home think that we are at war, but it is just the place I wanted to live in after a tough business life in England and then in the EC. Besides the IRA are just another bunch of gangsters hiding in their well subdued native areas. Just not representative of decent folk of any persuasion.

Advert over, get you and your bike over here for the Ulster G.P. in August.

Terry

 

[Joyseeker]

Re: In snow lovie?????????

Advert over, get you and your bike over here for the Ulster G.P. in August.

if it is true ireland has one race track only..... is this the one?

or am i to understand the cork motorrad ment one for the north and one for the south?

 

[TerryM]

One racetrack with international border

The whole country is a racetrack, with the border for added interest, and less than six million spectators on the whole island.

Why do you think I came from England via Europe to live here?

 

[jonboy]

Yes but the roads are shite (unfortunately).


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[LandRover]

I passed a truck today on my 1200gs

I can beat that ... I passed GAS!!

 

[Big Andy]

R1 Owners sit up

This passed me today very interesting!!!