1300GSA Braking question

[J biker]

	R1250 GS	R1300gs
Top speed	139mph	147mph
0-60mph	3.36s	3.39s
0-100mph	6.98s	6.61s
Standing quarter	11.22s @ 123.5mph	11.08s @ 128.2mph
40-70mph in fourth gear	2.6s in 62 metres	2.2s in 58 metres
40-70mph in top gear	3.5s in 85 metres	3.8s in 92 metres
70-0mph braking	52 metres	48 metres

 

[Bubb]

	R1250 GS	R1300gs
Top speed	139mph	147mph
0-60mph	3.36s	3.39s
0-100mph	6.98s	6.61s
Standing quarter	11.22s @ 123.5mph	11.08s @ 128.2mph
40-70mph in fourth gear	2.6s in 62 metres	2.2s in 58 metres
40-70mph in top gear	3.5s in 85 metres	3.8s in 92 metres
70-0mph braking	52 metres	48 metres

My arseometer dyno tests says this is correct as the 1300 is definitely quicker, and the brakes are at least as good, if not better than the 1250 I had.
I cannot comment on the top speeds of either, as I’ve never maxed out either the 1250, or the 1300….
Mind, the 1250 was very happy at 110mph on a German autobahn…..
I just wasn’t happy knowing how much fuel I was using, so dropped down to a sedate 95 ish….

My brakes o; my 2024 1300gs have always been fine……I’m no racer, but do ride “progressively” when and where appropriate….( smooth, safe, to the system….. I’m sure some will know what I mean)

 

[grantmac]

Where’s Borus…. I’ve been waiting to hear his bollox on this topic citing a deliberate design fault by BMW….

 

[Martin GSA UK]

Been and gone, judging by post #28. Don't know what rubbish it dribbled out as I'm enjoying the 'ignore' button. Be even better if no one reacted to it.

 

[botus]

I'd like to thank the fools and the dealers that are trying to deflect from the important point raised in the first post - an old boy that rides slow, has serious concerns re terrible brakes - he rejected one bike and got another one, it too has terrible brakes.

mine too has terrible brakes - so did BMW make only three bikes with bad brakes - or do we really have a forum who are secretly just a bunch of ignorant brand slut sycophants and fake forum members, who are really BM insiders and or dealer trolls. Who all specifically aim to undermine legit feedback, hindering owners with real concerns trying to help out the greater community.

The aim of raising a concern is to understand genuine failures / budget quality and help get a better bike for everyone - not open the door to sad fools who like to slander people they have never met.

 

[Doris]

'it's a fault'?
You really are insane. Or you work for the competition. Or both.
I have done two European Cannonballs, on 2 different 1300GS. The brakes work very well. As did the Hayes on the 1250GS.

Nope….he/she/it is just a cock….. ps…Brakes on my 1300 work just fine….

 

[botus]

Nope….he/she/it is just a cock….. ps…Brakes on my 1300 work just fine….

mine has terrible brakes - so did BMW make only three bikes with bad brakes - or do we really have a forum who are secretly just a bunch of ignorant brand slut sycophants and fake forum members, who are really BM insiders and or dealer trolls. Who all specifically aim to undermine legit feedback, hindering owners with real concerns trying to help out the greater community.

 

[J biker]

mine has terrible brakes - so did BMW make only three bikes with bad brakes - or do we really have a forum who are secretly just a bunch of ignorant brand slut sycophants and fake forum members, who are really BM insiders and or dealer trolls. Who all specifically aim to undermine legit feedback, hindering owners with real concerns trying to help out the greater community.

I can only speak as I have found.
2 x 1200gs
1x 1250gs
2x 1300gs
1x S1r
All with excellent brakes.
Some people may have had bikes with brakes not performing to max for various reasons, a design fault (your default position on anything BMW) seems to be easily ruled out based on the majority. Plus, the Bennetts brake distance test clearly shows reduced braking distance on the new v old model.

Exactly ? why you need to be such a pillock on this forum is anyones guess.
Maybe furnish us with your vin plate/chassis numbers etc. so we can make sure our bikes are not the same production run....one of your suggestions on another thread.. Maybe post up a picture of the offending Brembo calipers..


All things being equal, IF your brakes lack the racetrack sharp bite you desire, then upgrade the pads like a big boy.

The GS is a tourer, it has not been set up for one finger braking. It does not mean the brakes don't work.

"hindering owners with real concerns"
Let us vist this. Spewing bullshit as fact will not help owners with actual issues.

 

[TaskMule]

mine has terrible brakes - so did BMW make only three bikes with bad brakes - or do we really have a forum who are secretly just a bunch of ignorant brand slut sycophants and fake forum members, who are really BM insiders and or dealer trolls. Who all specifically aim to undermine legit feedback, hindering owners with real concerns trying to help out the greater community.

Who hurt you?

 

[Doris]

I can only speak as I have found.
2 x 1200gs
1x 1250gs
2x 1300gs
1x S1r
All with excellent brakes.
Some people may have had bikes with brakes not performing to max for various reasons, a design fault (your default position on anything BMW) seems to be easily ruled out based on the majority. Plus, the Bennetts brake distance test clearly shows reduced braking distance on the new v old model.

Exactly ? why you need to be such a pillock on this forum is anyones guess.
Maybe furnish us with your vin plate/chassis numbers etc. so we can make sure our bikes are not the same production run....one of your suggestions on another thread.. Maybe post up a picture of the offending Brembo calipers..


All things being equal, IF your brakes lack the racetrack sharp bite you desire, then upgrade the pads like a big boy.

The GS is a tourer, it has not been set up for one finger braking. It does not mean the brakes don't work.

"hindering owners with real concerns"
Let us vist this. Spewing bullshit as fact will not help owners with actual issues.

To be honest, most of my braking only requires one finger…..two for a hard stop…..but then I have a grip like a Scotsman on a five pound note…

 

[Doris]

mine has terrible brakes - so did BMW make only three bikes with bad brakes - or do we really have a forum who are secretly just a bunch of ignorant brand slut sycophants and fake forum members, who are really BM insiders and or dealer trolls. Who all specifically aim to undermine legit feedback, hindering owners with real concerns trying to help out the greater community.

Nope…you’re just a whining little cock….

 

[GSADavidZH2]

Has anyone actually crashed due to these (alleged) crap brakes?

.....Just asking....

 

[botus]

I can only speak as I have found.
2 x 1200gs
1x 1250gs
2x 1300gs
1x S1r
All with excellent brakes.
Some people may have had bikes with brakes not performing to max for various reasons, a design fault (your default position on anything BMW) seems to be easily ruled out based on the majority. Plus, the Bennetts brake distance test clearly shows reduced braking distance on the new v old model.

Exactly ? why you need to be such a pillock on this forum is anyones guess.
Maybe furnish us with your vin plate/chassis numbers etc. so we can make sure our bikes are not the same production run....one of your suggestions on another thread.. Maybe post up a picture of the offending Brembo calipers..


All things being equal, IF your brakes lack the racetrack sharp bite you desire, then upgrade the pads like a big boy.

The GS is a tourer, it has not been set up for one finger braking. It does not mean the brakes don't work.

"hindering owners with real concerns"
Let us vist this. Spewing bullshit as fact will not help owners with actual issues.

2007 GS - best brakes of any I've owned - racing pads work with one finger even in minus 10C at first application on stone cold discs, or when very hot
2011 GSA - std BM pads - not as good as the old GS is, but they function
2016 LC GSA - brakes worked well
Ridden 2022 1250GS - brakes worked very well
2026 1300GS - no brakes - nearly rear ended at high speed three times - worst brakes in 50 years biking
Just ridden 2026 R ninety with same sport calipers as the 1300GS - but it will do stoppies easily with one finger braking on cold discs

 

[botus]

R1300GSA weak brakes​

r/bmwmotorrad

Hi I own an s1000XR and i wanted to switch to GSA. I test rode one today with 4k kms on the clock. Honestly it was complete letdown, mainly the brakes. I expected it to be slightly worse than on the XR but it was so bad i didnt even feel safe on the bike. It was borderline dangerous, is it normal or was it just a bad unit? Or am i spoiled from the XR?


23109c

Just test rode a new R1300gs two days ago. Agree on brakes. They are bad. At least on the brand new unit I rode. I owned an R1250gs and never ever expected the R1300 brakes to be an issue. It honestly felt like trying to slow down an old truck with a trailer attached. The handling could be another discussion. I too expected to leave the dealer in possession of a new GS. I explained my experience to the salesman and even called back the next day to see if there is any chance the bike I rode had underinflated tires or some other issue. My humble opinion is R1300 is hype.

 

[J biker]

Well done on one finger stoppies on the R ninety.

Braking Performance & Distances

• • From 70 mph crash braking: The R1300GS pulls up roughly 4 meters (13 feet) shorter than the R1250GS. [1]
  • At the stop point: When the R1300GS has come to a complete standstill, the R1250GS is still traveling at nearly 20 mph. [1]

 

[J biker]

^^ as tested by Bennetts. Not by seat of pants Facebook opinions.

Maybe I just keep being lucky with my master cylinder, calliper and brake pad fitment with each bike.

 

[karlp]

Been and gone, judging by post #28. Don't know what rubbish it dribbled out as I'm enjoying the 'ignore' button. Be even better if no one reacted to it.

you need to come off ignore - as it makes a laugh a day

 

[Bubb]

Well I must have got a good one, as my r1300gs ( 2024) has great brakes.
I do ride in dynamic mode all of the time as I prefer how the bike reacts, including the braking.

If bmw have made a defective braking system, I’m sure they will be sued in the USA, and then there will be an update…..
Or maybe it wont happen as there is no problem with the brakes on r1300gs’s….. the bike has been out on the streets for three years now ( or close to) ….. and no legal challenge, even from the litigious yanks, so I say there is no problem with the brakes

Botus….. I’m not even sure you HAVE a gs….. no pictures = no bike….and you are a bot sent by Ducati/honda/voge?

 

[Martin GSA UK]

After an overnight stay, rode home from Stafford Classic Bike Show this afternoon, the first half was mostly back roads, for more interest. +200 miles on the 1300GSA. Lots of junctions and roundabouts on higher speed A roads. The brakes got a workout. I noticed I am using 2 fingers on the lever, even from high speed and not needing to add pressure on the rear pedal. I have all the confidence necessary that they do their job well.

If yours don't give confidence, they should, get them investigated by a second tech.