2014 side stand too long

[Deleted account 260111001]

So I've had my RT for 13,000 miles and since October 2014.

In that time it's fallen over twice and both times on the right side when kick/side stand was deployed and on both occasions within minutes of getting off.

The last time was at the BMW Dealer.

I commented on Facebook RT forum, and two other RT owners had similar issues. I chatted with a chap on the bike team and he had same thing happen to him with an RTP.

As I'm off to Berlin soon, and taking the Eurotunnel I decided that I didn't want it falling over on the train.

The angle of the bike when on level ground with the side stand down was 9 degrees, I decided to get a shorter stand, bit as there aren't many second hand ones, I had a mate who builds extreme challenge Range Rovers make it shorter. I tested with putting the bike on some wood, and then getting the side stand down, and decided that 2cm shorter would be ideal, and give 13degrees lean.

Also we put a larger foot on, and he had some stainless steel on hand so it has a new larger foot.

Wil post some photos later on, but bike is much more stable, and even with two tosser sized ruffians rocking the bike from side to side it was very stable on its shorter stand.

 

[Deleted account 260111001]

Freshly painted and all shiney!

 

[Deleted account 260111001]

Oh, forgot to mention, he is thinking of getting a stand, and then making them to order on an exchange basis.

 

[Norfolk Tiger]

Is that where the username wobble came from

 

[Deleted account 260111001]

Nah, I didn't want to use my real name of George Clooney, as it makes the lady tossers overcome with emotions

 

[Shunt]

Lady tossers are married to Tossers. They have no emotions. So feel free to drop the fake name George.


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[Deleted account 260111001]

Good point, well presented.

 

[DC]

So back to the stand..... Have you replaced the whole stand ? Or just cut the bottom off and welded on ? The image looks deceiving

I too agree they are a bit upright, I'm very cautious as to where I park mine , gradient of car park etc .

Half interested in one so keep me posted. , thanks George

 

[Deleted account 260111001]

We cut 2cm, less the thickness of the stainless steel foot, and lined it up with the bike with a few tack welds.

I have wunderlich footpeg lowering so had to make it fit so it doesn't chaffe (oooerr Missus).

When he comes back from France, going to price up getting a new stand and how much labour/materials

 

[SMARTELLIE]

Hi
Any update on the exchange for shorter sidestand project?
I've also had a couple of offs because of this issue and am very wary of surface angle when I park up.
I also have the Wunderlich foot extender fitted which doesn't help but I found even without this it is still too upright.

 

[Deleted account 260111001]

sorry for the long delay, the welder had a family crisis and had to go to France to deal with a close friend's estate following his passing. Ill get on to see how much is involved.

 

[basingstokesteve]

Freshly painted and all shiney!

Wobble
the side stand is nice and shinny but the centre stand is shocking for a 2014 bike

 

[DC]

Wobble
the side stand is nice and shinny but the centre stand is shocking for a 2014 bike

most of the 2014 models have crap stands, I think there is one layer of paint on mine , no primer or anything , I have wrapped it in black tape to try to preserver whats left of the finish…crap for a £15k bike...

 

[Deleted account 260111001]

Warranty runs out in October, and it's due it's 18k Service so will be asking the dealer opinion on the corrosion.

 

[dubster]

Min'es too short

...side stand that is

1150GSA, she likes to fall to her left - similarly often happens within minutes of parking up - even with a hockey puck on end of it

 

[knapdog]

Well I haven't got a problem with the sidestand. For me it's perfect, even with a Wunderlich "foot" added on.
If my stand was any shorter I can think of a number of occasions where the bike would feel as if it's falling over, particularly at the side of the road where you have a natural camber.
All surfaces are different so I try to park where it best suits the bike. This would also have to apply if yhe stand were shorter.

 

[Deleted account 260111001]

I had a word with the welder, he has decided that product liability means he won't be making any more for sale, he doesn't want the hassle of making them in bulk and then having someone claim if their bike falls over.

:-(

 

[knapdog]

I have to question again why anyone would want to shorten the stand. The edge of virtually every road cambers away to the "gutter". I parked up yesterday, kicked the stand out and started leaning the bike over until the stand touched the road. Even then, the bike seemed to be leaning precariously before it touched the floor. We all know that feeling where you think it's just about to topple.
If the stand had been any shorter, I would not have been able to park.

 

[Deleted account 260111001]

Quite agree Duncan that if you park on a cambered road then you don't need any change. However I can't rememberer ever parking on the side of a road like that, always park in car park, pavement or other flat ground., on the rare occasion I have packed on the road it's always rear wheel in against the kerb with a couple of other bikes diagonally (so taking up one car space).

My RT fell over three times, and I know of three other bikes that did the same. Each time the bike fell away from the stand, and it was often within a few minutes of parking up. The pain on my offside pannier is all scratched as the last time it did it, ( at a BMW dealer in a line of GSs, if had the pannier open).

Could you do me a favour? If you have a smart phone with spirit level app, try measuring on flat ground the lean on your bike, using the flat area of the luggage rack.

I had 9 degrees lean before, and have 13 now, it may be they have modified the stand length on later bikes, (not sure what year you have).

Also when on Eurotunnel it was the most upright of the bikes, before the modification, and I had to stand next to it for most of the journey, it's much more stable now.

 

[knapdog]

Quite agree Duncan that if you park on a cambered road then you don't need any change. However I can't rememberer ever parking on the side of a road like that, always park in car park, pavement or other flat ground., on the rare occasion I have packed on the road it's always rear wheel in against the kerb with a couple of other bikes diagonally (so taking up one car space).

My RT fell over three times, and I know of three other bikes that did the same. Each time the bike fell away from the stand, and it was often within a few minutes of parking up. The pain on my offside pannier is all scratched as the last time it did it, ( at a BMW dealer in a line of GSs, if had the pannier open).

Could you do me a favour? If you have a smart phone with spirit level app, try measuring on flat ground the lean on your bike, using the flat area of the luggage rack.

I had 9 degrees lean before, and have 13 now, it may be they have modified the stand length on later bikes, (not sure what year you have).

Also when on Eurotunnel it was the most upright of the bikes, before the modification, and I had to stand next to it for most of the journey, it's much more stable now.

Some good points there.
I didn't realise you could get a spirit level app showing degrees. I'll download one and have a look tomorrow.