2018 KTM 790 Adventure

[Deleted account 210604001]

A honest question (rather than trying to spark a debate about relative merits of tube versus tubeless), but if Im at my local Tesco's with a puncture (as opposed to being in the Sahara on an epic bike adventure) what do most people do, just call breakdown ?

I've seen a couple of vids of people changing tubed tyres, but it looks like a right faff, and I'm not sure I'd choose to break the bead and lever the tyre off assuming I have got some way to keep the bike upright. Is it sensible to assume that a can of tyre sealant will sort out minor punctures as an emergency measure ?


RBW.

 

[Rushy]

A honest question (rather than trying to spark a debate about relative merits of tube versus tubeless), but if Im at my local Tesco's with a puncture (as opposed to being in the Sahara on an epic bike adventure) what do most people do, just call breakdown ?

I've seen a couple of vids of people changing tubed tyres, but it looks like a right faff, and I'm not sure I'd choose to break the bead and lever the tyre off assuming I have got some way to keep the bike upright. Is it sensible to assume that a can of tyre sealant will sort out minor punctures as an emergency measure ?


RBW.

Like this perhaps;

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xhK1mbaHtj0

 

[BDG]

Nice bike

Function follows form

 

[BDG]

Here’s my function follows form and reason why I won’t buy a 790 even though I’m sure its a great bike. I certainly want to test one. I rode the 790 Duke and that’s a crazy little bike.

 

[Tim Cullis]

No need to remove the tyre. I use a tyre plug kit like used to be supplied with the R1200 GS—presumably still is? Plug the hole, inflate the tyre with either 4x CO2 cartridges or electric pump.

I've used Stop n Go tyre plugger on 1200GSA, 650GS twin, Nissan Navara 4x4 and a guy's scooter.

Comes in various packs, here's one with cartridges... https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Motorcyc...-Stop-Go-Pocket-Tyre-Plugger-CO2/131314357735

 

[Wreford Miles]

A honest question (rather than trying to spark a debate about relative merits of tube versus tubeless), but if Im at my local Tesco's with a puncture (as opposed to being in the Sahara on an epic bike adventure) what do most people do, just call breakdown ?

I've seen a couple of vids of people changing tubed tyres, but it looks like a right faff, and I'm not sure I'd choose to break the bead and lever the tyre off assuming I have got some way to keep the bike upright. Is it sensible to assume that a can of tyre sealant will sort out minor punctures as an emergency measure ?


RBW.

GS traverling the world have been tubless for years...

Plug and rats tails and a way to get preassure back in the tyre and if the split is is to big or the rim fecked so that it won’t hold pressure and if you are likely to be in a 'you’ve got to fix it yourself location' carry a tube that will fit the largest wheel, some levers and maybe some extra wide and long zip ties strapped to a fork leg

 

[Deleted account 210604001]

So the 790 Adventure R is tubeless ? I assumed it had tubes. Im familiar with puncture repair kits and have used 'Stop and Go' successfully on tubeless, but my assumption was the 790 was tubed.

RBW

No need to remove the tyre. I use a tyre plug kit like used to be supplied with the R1200 GS—presumably still is? Plug the hole, inflate the tyre with either 4x CO2 cartridges or electric pump.

I've used Stop n Go tyre plugger on 1200GSA, 650GS twin, Nissan Navara 4x4 and a guy's scooter.

Comes in various packs, here's one with cartridges... https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Motorcyc...-Stop-Go-Pocket-Tyre-Plugger-CO2/131314357735

GS traverling the world have been tubless for years...

Plug and rats tails and a way to get preassure back in the tyre and if you are likely to be in a 'you’ve got to fix it yourself location' carry a tube that will fit the largest wheel, some levers and maybe some extra wide and long zip ties strapped to a fork leg

 

[IanC]

+1 , the Yamaha looked cheap and a bit half finished at the NEC compared to the KTM. A guy I’ve ridden with a few times had put his name down on one with his local Yamaha dealer and was excited about getting it , until he had a good look at the show . Went home and “cancelled” his place in the queue.

I was also very unimpressed by the T7 at the NEC.

Looked like Yamaha had decided to build a bike to use up all the leftover bits and spares they had accumulated over the past 10-15 years!

Will have try of the 790R as soon as Fowlers' demo is available

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[Apex]

A couple of points I didn't mention.

I put the R screen on the top fixing before I went out. At 60-90 the bike was really planted but there was some buffeting that started around 50. I suspect the lower setting will be better. It might suit the higher setting along with one of those deflector wings (MRA?) but I don't know.

The fuel guage didn't move the whole ride. Popped into AMS on my way past and called in to see the tech. There's an update for the fuel guage arriving this week by the sound of things.

They had a new bike prepped for a customer and he'd removed the Karoo 3's and fitted some Motoz Tractionator RallZ. They looked very hard core! 80/20 Dirt/Road I think. Tech said they were very easy to fit. It's a dilemma really. I'd love something along those lines but don't want to compromise road performance. The Karoo's seem very good indeed on road. Feel like road tyres to be honest. If I do a part(s) of the TET this year the RallZ or Adventure 2's is probably what I'd go for. I think I'll start a 790 tyre thread....


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[Joe narvey]

Has anyone out TKC on the 790R ?

I had Karoo on my GSA and it was like riding a space hopper.

 

[Arsey]

I’ve removed the Karoos and fitted Pirelli Rally Scorpion STRs.
I don’t like the Karoos much especially on road. The STRs are in a different league , better even than the Conti TA2s that I’ve had on all my 21/18 wheel bikes for a number of years.

 

[Apex]

Has anyone out TKC on the 790R ?

I had Karoo on my GSA and it was like riding a space hopper.

Think Motoz tyres are quieter than TKC whilst having all the grip and lasting twice as long. What's not to like.


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[Tim Cullis]

So the 790 Adventure R is tubeless ? I assumed it had tubes. Im familiar with puncture repair kits and have used 'Stop and Go' successfully on tubeless, but my assumption was the 790 was tubed.

It was when I found the 790 was tubeless (both the R and non-R versions) that I started to get really interested in the bike.

There is always the possibility of rim damage affecting the sealing of tubeless tyres, so for those 'ready to race' riders who are likely to use the bike more as an enduro bike there's the option to buy wheels with tubed DID rims.

 

[Tim Cullis]

They had a new bike prepped for a customer and he'd removed the Karoo 3's and fitted some Motoz Tractionator RallZ. They looked very hard core! 80/20 Dirt/Road I think. Tech said they were very easy to fit. It's a dilemma really. I'd love something along those lines but don't want to compromise road performance. The Karoo's seem very good indeed on road. Feel like road tyres to be honest. If I do a part(s) of the TET this year the RallZ or Adventure 2's is probably what I'd go for. I think I'll start a 790 tyre thread....

I've run TKC80s on my last four tubeless bikes. I wanted something more dirt oriented than the Avon Trailriders that come as standard on the non-R bike and my dealer has offered to swap them to Karoo 3 free-of-charge. Obviously everyone has their own opinion on tyres (and oil) but the guy in this video seemed unbiased. The 790 is of course lighter than the 1200GS.

 

[Wreford Miles]

I'm a big fan of Trailriders on the GS but decided to give Trekriders a go - Very good, keeping much of the Trailrider feel and now with some off-road capability

I've not really tried the latter just a few dry'ish green lanes that I know well but they did seem to hook up well

 

[Deleted account 210604001]

Brilliant, time for a test ride then

RBW.

It was when I found the 790 was tubeless (both the R and non-R versions) that I started to get really interested in the bike.

There is always the possibility of rim damage affecting the sealing of tubeless tyres, so for those 'ready to race' riders who are likely to use the bike more as an enduro bike there's the option to buy wheels with tubed DID rims.

 

[Joe narvey]

I’ve removed the Karoos and fitted Pirelli Rally Scorpion STRs.
I don’t like the Karoos much especially on road. The STRs are in a different league , better even than the Conti TA2s that I’ve had on all my 21/18 wheel bikes for a number of years.

The Pirelli Scorpion STRs look very road bias. Have you had them in mud and large loose rocks/pebbles ?

 

[JohnnyBoxer]

The Pirelli Scorpion STRs look very road bias.

Have you had them in mud and large loose rocks/pebbles ?

 

[Joe narvey]

Go on, I’ll bite, is my question stupid !

 

[Byronavitch]

Go on, I’ll bite, is my question stupid !

Seemed a fair question to me ,