2024 Himalayan 450

[(RIP) Mark H]

Been a long time since I had to deal with chain maintenance, what's the collectives thoughts on the Himmie chain, do I shop for a chain oiler? are they necessary, imagine they could be messy, how often to clean? alternatives? Have heard cleaning recommended every 500Km's (300 miles) ... thoughts?

Also, what's the life expectancy of a chain and sprocket set up nowadays?

 

[g.s.john]

Every chain driven bike i've had had a Scott oiler fitted increased chain/sprocket life, keep the chain clean and oiled every 500 miles using aerosol cleaner/oil cans.
I can't speak for the quality of the OEM chain & sprockets but a good quality O or X ring sealed chain will perform better.

 

[Arsey]

Nice one Mark.
I’ve got all my bits for the bike .
No bike till July .
I went with Lomo pannier bags and a load of cheap shite from India . All arrived within 2 weeks .

 

[Arsey]

 

[(RIP) Mark H]

Hi Martin
Just watched that youtube you posted earlier, tempting for a bit of light off roading, might have a go

Have ordered pannier frames and the large top box plate with the bike order, will sort out luggage when I have the bike in a couple of weeks hopefully

Did you get the large Lomo Pannier Bags? do you think it will clear the Exhaust?

What are planning to carry on your Picos trip for chain maintenance on the go?

 

[Posh Pete]

I fitted a Loobman oiler yesterday. Cheap and cheerful and it works. My job today is to adjust the delivery head which moved during yesterday's birl.

Re OEM chains, there was a noticeable difference when I replaced the chain on my MK1 Himmie. OEM was knackered in no time, prone to tight spots and noisy. A quality after market item solved all that.

 

[Arsey]

Hi Martin
Just watched that youtube you posted earlier, tempting for a bit of light off roading, might have a go

Have ordered pannier frames and the large top box plate with the bike order, will sort out luggage when I have the bike in a couple of weeks hopefully

Did you get the large Lomo Pannier Bags? do you think it will clear the Exhaust?

What are planning to carry on your Picos trip for chain maintenance on the go?

Yes, large pannier bags . Should be fine .
I’ll carry a can of chain live like I’ve done for years . Give it a squirt if needs it after riding in rain

 

[Robbo1200ADV]

Had a sit on one today . Pretty roomy for me at 6 foot 5 . Looked well built , knees were very comfortable, bit like a mini GSA . I’m off to the Pico’s on my GSA in October so need to keep it for that , but can see one in my life at some stage . Quite heavy getting it off the side stand but heh so what . Looks a great bike at a fab price , and felt better for me than the somewhat cramped and low 411

 

[Posh Pete]

That's the first service done. I can now confirm that the 450 has ample power/torque for A road overtakes.

 

[Arsey]

Nathan has taken his new Himmy 450 to Ireland

 

[TIJ650]

There seems to be a bit of a cult following for this 450cc single?! At least on here anyway.
Afraid of pissing on anyone’s Cheerios or starting a new Rough Wooing………….but my sister works for Lloyds and’s in charge of a couple of call centres in Mumbai. Anyway, she made some gentle enquiries into the cost of said motorcycle over there. And it seems it ranges from £2,700 up to a maximum of £2,900 depending on model. Those are list prices and maybe a little wriggle room to boot?!
Sure nigh on impossible to buy and ride back, but if doing Kashmir tour anyway?????
Probably fortunes on duty too

 

[Eastmidsbiker]

If anyone has had their 450 delivered and fancies a rideout in Derbyshire on Friday on it or has an older generation Himalayan I'm meeting a few Himalayan owners for a byways rideout starting from the Royal Enfield dealers Smalley Cross at 10am.

 

[Jazbee]

There seems to be a bit of a cult following for this 450cc single?! At least on here anyway.
Afraid of pissing on anyone’s Cheerios or starting a new Rough Wooing………….but my sister works for Lloyds and’s in charge of a couple of call centres in Mumbai. Anyway, she made some gentle enquiries into the cost of said motorcycle over there. And it seems it ranges from £2,700 up to a maximum of £2,900 depending on model. Those are list prices and maybe a little wriggle room to boot?!
Sure nigh on impossible to buy and ride back, but if doing Kashmir tour anyway?????
Probably fortunes on duty too

It's the same with all bikes made in India, in some ways international sales are subsidising India sales - no bad thing really.

 

[TIJ650]

It's the same with all bikes made in India, in some ways international sales are subsidising India sales - no bad thing really.

Yeah almost agree, but having worked for the Japanese 20+ years I’ve learnt that they sell their products for different prices to different marketplaces based on what they can actually afford. I.e countries with deepest pockets pay most. Some prestige marques don’t follow this ethos though - everyone pays same. Rolex to name one.

 

[Wapping]

but having worked for the Japanese 20+ years I’ve learnt that they sell their products for different prices to different marketplaces based on what they can actually afford.

It would be pretty daft to widely retail products outside of the home market, at prices the majority of the external markets couldn’t afford.

European companies do the same, though their ‘transfer price’ mechanisms are often geared not so much towards sales but to avoiding or reducing tax *.

Take for example product A, manufactured in Germany, a modest profit is declared at the factory gates. The manufacturer then passes the product (on paper) through a head sales office in a low tax domicile, like Luxembourg. Luxembourg then up’s the price and sells the product to their own or third party wholesalers in say, France, Spain and the UK, who load a little bit more on top, depending on what the local markets will stand. The wholesalers then sell product A to a local retailer who puts it on display in their local shop, putting their profit on top. The local government(s) then apply VAT on top of that price….. and the local customers then buy product A….. or they don’t.


* You could of course make a pretty good case that, by reducing the overall tax burden, products at the customers’ end are cheaper than they might otherwise be.

 

[TIJ650]

It would be pretty daft to widely retail products outside of the home market, at prices the majority of the external markets couldn’t afford.

European companies do the same, though their ‘transfer price’ mechanisms are often geared not so much towards sales but to avoiding or reducing tax *.

Take for example product A, manufactured in Germany, a modest profit is declared at the factory gates. The manufacturer then passes the product (on paper) through a head sales office in a low tax domicile, like Luxembourg. Luxembourg then up’s the price and sells the product to their own or third party wholesalers in say, France, Spain and the UK, who load a little bit more on top, depending on what the local markets will stand. The wholesalers then sell product A to a local retailer who puts it on display in their local shop, putting their profit on top. The local government(s) then apply VAT on top of that price….. and the local customers then buy product A….. or they don’t.


* You could of course make a pretty good case that, by reducing the overall tax burden, products at the customers’ end are cheaper than they might otherwise be.

Like 52.95p/ litre fuel duty followed by 20% VAT for example

 

[steve hughes]

It would be pretty daft to widely retail products outside of the home market, at prices the majority of the external markets couldn’t afford.

European companies do the same, though their ‘transfer price’ mechanisms are often geared not so much towards sales but to avoiding or reducing tax *.

Take for example product A, manufactured in Germany, a modest profit is declared at the factory gates. The manufacturer then passes the product (on paper) through a head sales office in a low tax domicile, like Luxembourg. Luxembourg then up’s the price and sells the product to their own or third party wholesalers in say, France, Spain and the UK, who load a little bit more on top, depending on what the local markets will stand. The wholesalers then sell product A to a local retailer who puts it on display in their local shop, putting their profit on top. The local government(s) then apply VAT on top of that price….. and the local customers then buy product A….. or they don’t.


* You could of course make a pretty good case that, by reducing the overall tax burden, products at the customers’ end are cheaper than they might otherwise be.

Richard thats not a million miles away from car

There seems to be a bit of a cult following for this 450cc single?! At least on here anyway.
Afraid of pissing on anyone’s Cheerios or starting a new Rough Wooing………….but my sister works for Lloyds and’s in charge of a couple of call centres in Mumbai. Anyway, she made some gentle enquiries into the cost of said motorcycle over there. And it seems it ranges from £2,700 up to a maximum of £2,900 depending on model. Those are list prices and maybe a little wriggle room to boot?!
Sure nigh on impossible to buy and ride back, but if doing Kashmir tour anyway?????
Probably fortunes on duty too

I subscribe to Bike India which has all the current bike prices at the rear. Old 411 Himmies are 2.1 Lakh or £2100. Bajaj ktms similar also Hero’s. I seem to remember the launch price for the Triumph Speed 400 was £2450 for a few months then £2700. £4995 over here.

If you really want to see “ differentiated pricing” in various World markets look at big pharma.

 

[TIJ650]

Funniest example I can remember of he with most pays most - was in Phuket few years ago where I rented a Yamaha T-Max (great bike for there btw, but I digress). Anyway, crazy lady with toddler on her scooter rear ended me at traffic lights. Cops came and told me I had to pay cause she had no insurance and couldn’t afford etc………and I obviously did - so in eyes of Thai law this makes me responsible

 

[Posh Pete]

Pishing down today so the tank came off. Pretty straightforward - 3 Allan bolts at the rear and one at the front. You have to remove the black plastic cover at the front. It fits on rubber "door stops" like the tank itself.

I pulled the tank back a bit then hoiked it up at the back to remove the fuel line, fuel pump electrics connector and 2 vent hoses. These are a push fit only - no clips.

I could not get the fuel level sensor unclipped but there's quite a bit of slack so simply pulling the tank back (battery disconnected and covered!) gave me the space I needed to wire in the ancient 550 and a loom for the 660. Both via a Thunderbox.

 

[Jazbee]

Yet another Himmy 450 Vlog.....the MAM Journals. The best RE so far?