2720 BMW Motorrad Dealer Database

[mermoto]

This is probably going to be one for Michael, as I have been experimenting with my 2720 I loaded the BMW Motorrad Dealer Database Navigator II file on to it. It appears to have installed into the mapping section, however despite having restored my 2720 to its factory settings the map is still present under the original NT map. When it is enabled it doesnt look any different to the original mapping and I can't see any BMW dealers on it. So how do I remove it from my Garmin as there is no obvious uninstall? Am I right in thinking it installed to a different part of the Garmins memory?

Mermoto

 

[PanEuropean]

I wish I could help you, but I have never used a BMW dealer database (I ride a Honda ST1100), so, I have no idea where it goes, how it works, or what it does.

If it is a stand-alone cartographic file (sort of like a map), then you could probably disable it by going to the map detail page of your GPSR and turning it off there.

Michael

 

[beemerboy9]

I'm guessing here, but if I had a 2720 (I've got an SPIII with the BMW Nav I software loaded) I would up load the software for the Nav III and definitely not the Nav II. The 2820, Nav III (2820 w/o MP3 player) and 2720 (2820 w/o bluetooth and MP3) seem similar to me.

Hope this helps.

 

[PanEuropean]

The 2820, Nav III (2820 w/o MP3 player) and 2720 (2820 w/o bluetooth and MP3) seem similar to me.

Uh - I can't comment on the efficacy of loading the different BMW dealer databases, but, the 2820 and BMW Nav III are one set of twins, and the 2720 is an entirely different, earlier generation GPSR. They may look physically the same (they have the same form factor), but there are very considerable differences in both hardware and software between the 27xx series and the 28xx series.

Garmin generally increments the second number from the left with each generation. Hence, you have the 26xx series, 27xx series, and 28xx series. The hardware and software are very different between all three.

Michael

 

[John Armstrong]

When it is enabled it doesnt look any different to the original mapping and I can't see any BMW dealers on it.

I installed the dealer data base onto a 2610 and have it automatically on my current Nav 2. AFAICR neither have shown the dealers on the maps, but are located in the POI's find area.

And I didn't manage to backload the dealers from the 2610 onto the PC either .

 

[mermoto]

I installed the dealer data base onto a 2610 and have it automatically on my current Nav 2. AFAICR neither have shown the dealers on the maps, but are located in the POI's find area.

And I didn't manage to backload the dealers from the 2610 onto the PC either .

Mmm So this poses me a problem. Presumably if Im able to load and run the BMW dealer batch file on my 2720 and it still exists when I have reset the unit back to manufacturer settings, the files must be installed in some part of the memory that is not wiped during the reset procedure. There must be a way of accessing this memory and surely it must be possible to reverse the install?? I contacted BMW Motorrad but they just refered me to contact Garmin . Guess what, I emailed Garmin and they have not bothered to reply. YET.

So now what??? Anyone able to write a reverse procedure batch fille??

Mermoto

 

[PanEuropean]

Mermato:

If it really matters to you, you could send the GPSR to Garmin and they could remove the file for you - although they may charge you a labour fee for doing so. Personally, I wouldn't bother to worry about it - the amount of space that the BMW dealer list takes up within the GPSR map memory is miniscule.

Michael

 

[mermoto]

Mermato:

If it really matters to you, you could send the GPSR to Garmin and they could remove the file for you - although they may charge you a labour fee for doing so. Personally, I wouldn't bother to worry about it - the amount of space that the BMW dealer list takes up within the GPSR map memory is miniscule.

Michael

Cheers Michael, I dont like technology to get the better of me. But its reasuring that its not taking up much of the memory. If I solve it I will let you know. Its just a little strange that re setting the firmware doesn't remove it??

Mermoto

 

[beemerboy9]

Uh - I can't comment on the efficacy of loading the different BMW dealer databases, but, the 2820 and BMW Nav III are one set of twins, and the 2720 is an entirely different, earlier generation GPSR. They may look physically the same (they have the same form factor), but there are very considerable differences in both hardware and software between the 27xx series and the 28xx series.

Garmin generally increments the second number from the left with each generation. Hence, you have the 26xx series, 27xx series, and 28xx series. The hardware and software are very different between all three.

Michael

Thankyou, Michael, for correcting that misapprehension.

 

[PanEuropean]

If I solve it I will let you know. Its just a little strange that re setting the firmware doesn't remove it?

Mermoto:

You won't solve it, because you need a special software tool to get access to that database to toss it. That software tool is not publicly distributed.

It's not at all strange that you can't get rid of it. Think of it this way: A user downloads a BMW dealer database into their BMW Navigator GPSR. For one reason or another, they wind up 'resetting' their GPSR to factory defaults. It would be quite undesirable if the dealer database - which is considered part of the pre-installed cartography - was deleted during that process.

The end users can update the dealer database, but by design, they cannot delete it. Anyway, like I said before, it is tiny - the electronic equivalent of storing a pack of chewing gum in a pannier - so don't worry about it.

 

[mermoto]

Mermoto:

You won't solve it, because you need a special software tool to get access to that database to toss it. That software tool is not publicly distributed.

It's not at all strange that you can't get rid of it. Think of it this way: A user downloads a BMW dealer database into their BMW Navigator GPSR. For one reason or another, they wind up 'resetting' their GPSR to factory defaults. It would be quite undesirable if the dealer database - which is considered part of the pre-installed cartography - was deleted during that process.

The end users can update the dealer database, but by design, they cannot delete it. Anyway, like I said before, it is tiny - the electronic equivalent of storing a pack of chewing gum in a pannier - so don't worry about it.

Thanks Michael, That all makes sense. Like you say it is simply a matter of using the correct software to gain access to the part of the memory currently hidden from the end user. Watch this space

Mermoto

 

[Sergiok]

Mermoto, was there a resolution to this?

 

[mermoto]

No, it remains hidden in the depths of garmin. Do you have any thoughts?

Mermoto