3rd year warranty question

Homer1968

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Folks my 800 GS is 2 years old in September and i was considering taking out an extended warranty on it. This as you are probably aware comes with BMW recovery. The price ive seen is in the region of £350. What are your thoughts on this both for and against.
Negatives for me is a leave ban at work between April to September next year, cos of what i do and covering the olympics. Also I can get recovery through my insurance but what standard that is i don't know.
All replies appreciated

Cheers :beer:
 
Extended Warranty!

Hi Homer,

I've used it and and no doubt will use it when my current bikes warranty runs out.....!

I've had it on......03 R1150GSA and an 07 HP2 Enduro in the past untill I sold each bike.

Having said that i've never needed to use it yet so can't really say if it's any good and in my case certainly hasn't been worth the money so far.

I've not needed to use the recovery service so can't say if that's any good either. I did phone them when I had a puncture once but decided to fix it myself.

What it has been worth is piece of mind I suppose....Knowing that if my bike breaksdown it'll get recovered at anytime and i'll be able to continue my journey at home or abroad then repaired hopefully without too much extra cost.

FP.:thumb
 
I've got the same thing come October. I'm gonna get it.

My main reason is that i got my bike with very low mileage so it hasn't had the opportunity for things to go wrong that may. Whether this makes mechanical sense i don't know, but I'm very aware that one minor to moderate fault and i'll have broken even on the cost of the extension. Anything major and i'm on to a winner.

May be off topic but... who actually decided hosting the Olympics would be a good idea? I'm guessing not a single soul who's gonna be working it!

Anyway, if you're not going to be riding it for the summer period i'm guessing there's less chance of a fault developing and therefore warranty less worthwhile...

I think recovery is much of a muchness - they'll get it started or they'll get you and the bike home (when in the UK at least). I think the only advantage of BMW recovery is that they are a bit more likely to get you going.

Good luck whatever your decision,

S
 
I think the only advantage of BMW recovery is that they are a bit more likely to get you going

Not really two break downs and on bothe occasions they sent a none BMW/bike specialist so recovered.

Mine is a 54 plate under warrantied the positives are obvious but the negatives from my experience are you tied to dealer servicing and if you breakdown isn't covered by warranty you end up paying BMW prices to fix it as diagnostics ain't cover so my wallet ended up 1k lighter :eek:
 
I get full euro recovery through my Carole Nash insurance policy, this also includes recovery in the event of an accident, which the warranty probably does not cover.

I am uncertain of the exact details of the warranty despite having it with my Approved Used Bike, nine months after buying the bike the warranty book has not arrived, calling the dealer / BMW has done nothing to resolve it so I am unsure of exact terms but from what I have heard here:-

It is an insurance type warranty, it has the usual getout clauses such as:-

"no failure caused by another failure" is covered, so your oil cooler pipe bursts and the engine seizes and they could just replace the burst hose but the knackered engine is your problem.

"Fair wear and tear" is not covered, now a blown up FD could be classed as "fair wear and tear" and certainly a buggered clutch will be excluded.

There is also an excess on any claims, I do not know how much this is as I do not have the bloody terms because BMW have not sent them to me.

You also have to get all services done by an offical BMW dealer, OK if that is what you are gonna do anyway, but as well as the £350 for the warranty each service is gonna cost £100+ more than it would at an independant.

I originally believed the BMW warranties were manufacturer backed and "mirrored" the original new warranty, in which case they would probably be pretty good value. From what I have since learned I will keep the £350 and put it towards any nasty failures, if nothing goes wrong I will have a chunk of cash towards my next bike, the "worst scenario" I am guessing is a blown FD which can be rebuilt for under £500 anyway so I am guessing by the time the excesses are taken into account your unlikely to gain from the warranty.
 
I got the 3rd year

Hello,
I was facing same decision few month ago. There are certainly arguments for and against it.
You got a BMW, which is quite reliable bike and most likely there won't be anything going wrong. On other hand, you have an expensive bike and having it under warranty is big advantage.
For example, I got chain and sprockets replaced under warranty during my 12000miles service. In addition when the bike was new, I have discovered a small bit a rust near the side stand and I got the main frame replaced free of charge under the warranty. So far, the dealers were quite good and I think the BMW warranty is a fair value and not just bullshit.
I should also mention that I feel, that after the 2 years/12000 miles, the bike starts to show the weak points here and there - screws loosing up, paint flicking off - so might be nice being covered when something major would show up.
The warranty also comes with BMW recovery which is quite good.

I will probably not extend the warranty anymore after 3 years (maybe is even not possible), but I think the 3rd year is worth doing it.

V.
 
After carefully consideration I have just purchased the BMW extended warranty for £295 with a £50 excess. Iv done 30000+ miles over the last 2 years with only a few small problems..
Be aware the BMW warrant only covers £1000 including VAT for a single claim, but has no limit of how many small claims you make. The small problems I have had such as a faulty ignition switch could have cost £100s to resolve privately. It includes such items as wheel bearings and steering bearings which a few members have had trouble resolving in the BMW 24 month warranty.
I have read the terms of the Motorrad policy and it seems quite fair, they will cover components damages as a result of insured components failing. Its expensive but nothing like the cost of a new bike if you like the security of a warranty.
I checked a few alternative warranty providers but they were quoting £450+ for a bike with my mileage.
Also note the warranty has to be purchased before the 24 months std expire, BMW UK send you a letter with a pin number which you need to purchase the extension.
 
I was told you can put warranty on any bike (or at least the sort of ages I was looking at) even if you buy privately, but I think you had to have it checked over first.

I was not aware of the £1000 limit, this is a shame as I am not too concerned about a few hundred quid here and there (and think you need to be very unlucky to have more than a couple of small claims in one year) but big ticket items like FD, ABS Controller, ECU all go beyond the limit as would anything requiring the engine to be removed from the bike - which I assume means clutch / gearbox etc. A wrecked head would also be well beyond that figure.

When I bought my bike as an approved used BMW the story I got from two dealers was it covered the same as the new bike warranty, one of the reasons I bought from a dealer was this was thrown in and a years "full" warranty on a used bike seemed pretty good - perhaps that's why they never sent me the T&C having lied about the cover :nenau I am not happy to learn that the warranty would not even cover a failed FD in full.
 
First let me apologies, Motorrad dose not have a £1000 claim max.
You can buy a warranty at any time from companies such as Warrant direct,
http://www.warrantydirect.co.uk/faqs_bikes.html
The quote for my bike was £375, but to make a claim it is more difficult, you do all the running around and have to contact the company to get approval.
The Motorrad policy must be purchased before 24 months expire, Its a full recovery, rescue, warranty package. The original 24 month warranty is fully backed by BMW, this packages is underwritten by Mondail Insurance. I suspect dealers my be able to purchase this to include with second hand bikes.
I must apologies over my statement about a £1000 maximum claim, I was confused by the wording,
Quote form the warranty handbook " Up to the market value of
insured motorcycle at the time of claim or up to a maximum £1000 whichever is greater, inclusive of VAT"
Below is an extract of items covered.

Component Cover
Depending on you having paid the correct premium when due, you are covered for the costs (limited to parts and labour inclusive of VAT) of
repairing or replacing the factory fitted covered components below that have suffered electrical or mechanical failure during the period of insurance.
The maximum total claims liability covered by the BMW Motorrad Insured
Warranty is the market value for the insured motorcycle inclusive of VAT

Engine
All internally lubricated components, including but not limited to the following:
Failure of the following internal parts:
starter ring gear, oil pump, timing
gears and chains, tappet gears,
pistons and rings, con rods, flywheel,
crankshaft and bearings, camshaft
and cam followers, valves and guides,
cylinder head, cylinder block, balancer
shafts and all internal bushings.

Gearbox
All internally lubricated components,
including but not limited to the
following:
Failure of the following internal parts:
gears, selectors, selector forks and
drums, bearings and bushes,
synchromesh, hubs and shafts,
excluding external linkages.

Drive
All internally lubricated components,
including but not limited to the
following:
Failure of the following parts: gears,
shafts, bearings and bushes, universal
joints, but excluding hubs, chains,
sprockets and rubber boots.

Final drive
All internally lubricated components, including but not limited to the following:
Failure of the following parts:
crown wheel, pinion and bearings. Pinion
shaft oil seal and crown wheel cover
seal, rear wheel carrier.

Clutch
Failure of the following parts: master
cylinder, slave cylinder, clutch plate,
plate housing cover, thrust bearing
including oil contamination of the
clutch plate, but excluding external
linkages, burnt out parts and general
wear and tear.

Steering
Failure of the following parts: steering
head bearings, Telelever ball joints,
steering damper, solid and roller
bearings including wheel bearings and
seals.

Suspension
Failure of the following parts:
Telelever ball joints, telescopic forks
(excluding pitting) and seals. Front
and rear shock absorber units (up to
30,000 miles only). Policy Wording 17

Braking system
Failure of the following parts: brake
callipers, ABS control unit, master
cylinders and ABS hydraulic pump
unit. (Seized callipers due to corrosion
are not covered).

Fuel system
Failure of the following parts: injection
control unit, fuel injectors, fuel level
transmitter, fuel pressure regulator,
carburettor, fuel pump, fuel pump
relay, solenoids, idle control valve,
throttle position potentiometer.

Cooling system
Failure of the radiator (excluding
damage, clogging and/or
sedimentation blockage), water pump,
thermostat and housing.

Electrical system
Failure of the following parts: all
electrical control units, on board
computer and starter motor, starter
relay/module, alternator, voltage
regulator, cooling fan motor, ignition
coil, wiring loom, lambda probe, fuel
level circuit boards and sender units,
ABS control unit, ABS hydraulic pump
and ABS wheel sensors (excluding
damage), immobiliser antenna. CD
player, radio. engine temperature
transmitter and coolant temperature
transmitter. Cruise control motor,
reverse gear module and actuator.
Electric screen motor, main stand
motor, electronic suspension
adjustment motors.

Instruments
Failure of the following parts:
speedometer, gear indicators,
voltmeter, fuel gauge, temperature
gauge, tachometer and clock, but
excluding accident damage

Seals and gaskets
Failure of the following: engine – rear
main oil seal, front crankshaft seal,
output shaft seal, cylinder head gasket
and valve guide oil seals. Gearbox –
input shaft seal, output shaft seal and
clutch push rod seal. Rear axle –
pinion oil seal.

Frames
Failure of the structured members but
excluding failure by corrosion or
accident damage.

Casings
Casings are covered only when
damaged by the failure of an insured
component.

Sundries
Working materials i.e. oils, filters,
antifreeze are claimable as a direct
result of a valid claim providing the
insured motorcycle is not within
1,000 miles of its next scheduled
service.

Miscellaneous
Other than the oil seals and gaskets
specifically listed above, the
rectification of oil leaks is not covered
and the cost of seals and gaskets will
only be accepted where they are
required as a direct consequence of a
valid claim under the insurance.
Any components not specifically
listed are not covered.
 
Thanks for the update, you have succeeded where BMW have failed, and without even taking £8.5k of me.

Does it say what to do if you break down abroad?
 
Yes, phone the following number and all will be taken care of, (I hope (( double hope, I never need to ring))

Important Telephone Numbers
How to contact us regarding your Insured Warranty
If you need to contact us, you should call BMW Motorrad Insured Warranty Services on: 0871 200 3278
Alternatively, you can write to us at,
BMW Motorrad Insured Warranty Services,
PO Box 1852
Croydon
CR9 1PW
For any enquiries relating to the administration of your policy please contact BMW Motorrad Insured Warranty Services on:
0871 200 3278
How to contact us for Emergency Services
If calling from a landline within the UK freephone: 0800 777 190
If calling from a mobile within the UK call: 020 8603 9490
Republic of Ireland and Continental Europe: 00 44 20 8686 2444
 
Thanks for the advice folks. With what you've said Sooty i think i'll extend it to a 3rd year (just to be on the safe side )
 


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