tosh23
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Ohh dear, come on bmw even honda are kicking yourass
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDXUmCmggpA&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDXUmCmggpA&feature=related
A new 1200 GS for 2012
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You are having a laugh, right?!
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Here's the best page I've found with all the specs.
http://www.twowheelsblog.com/post/8...nical-specs/last?message=accepted#add_comment
The one that caught my eye was the 605 lb. curb weight!
A dealer here just told me that he found a note that said that it should cost around $15000 USD - same as that hideous Yammy Super Thingy.
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That's just about like every other Honda, a large chunk of plastic blown into a jelly mould!
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You might want to check out the very black GS on advrider, stunning IMO and has the right amount of black.
I like the look of the Honda, and the VFR based motor should be quite nice in this bike.
Weight looks a bit high, but I suspect Honda are being honest where BMW tend to lie by about 50lb on their spec's so I doubt in the real world it is going to be as bad as it sounds - especially if the weight includes luggage.
Can't see it having much off-road ability, but for someone like me who just wants a bike that works well on any road, handles sweetly in the mountains and can manage the odd unpaved road / track it looks OK.
OEM luggage looks good, and large enough for two people, I expect the price will be in the region of a well specc'd GSA though.
Weight looks a bit high, but I suspect Honda are being honest where BMW tend to lie by about 50lb on their spec's so I doubt in the real world it is going to be as bad as it sounds - especially if the weight includes luggage.
Can't see it having much off-road ability, but for someone like me who just wants a bike that works well on any road, handles sweetly in the mountains and can manage the odd unpaved road / track it looks OK.
OEM luggage looks good, and large enough for two people, I expect the price will be in the region of a well specc'd GSA though.
New Tigger
Latest re new Tigger......off MCN site
Triumph's new Tiger Explorer will give its R1200GS rival a 135bhp mauling the firm has revealed. That makes the Explorer's all-new 1200cc+ motor 35% more powerful than its German rival's, at least for now, and on a par with the expected new Versys 1000. It also means it's the set to be the most powerful shaft-driven adventure tourer for the forseeable future.
Triumph has also indicated it will price the bike between £11k and £11,500 – which puts it into GS Adventure territory. But ABS, cruise and traction control will all come as standard. Low and high seat options will be available and a wide range of heated and electrical accessories will run simultaneously thanks to what Triumph describes as the Tiger Explorer’s best-in-class 950w generator.
TD
Latest re new Tigger......off MCN site
Triumph's new Tiger Explorer will give its R1200GS rival a 135bhp mauling the firm has revealed. That makes the Explorer's all-new 1200cc+ motor 35% more powerful than its German rival's, at least for now, and on a par with the expected new Versys 1000. It also means it's the set to be the most powerful shaft-driven adventure tourer for the forseeable future.
Triumph has also indicated it will price the bike between £11k and £11,500 – which puts it into GS Adventure territory. But ABS, cruise and traction control will all come as standard. Low and high seat options will be available and a wide range of heated and electrical accessories will run simultaneously thanks to what Triumph describes as the Tiger Explorer’s best-in-class 950w generator.
TD
tw99
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Latest re new Tigger......off MCN site
Triumph's new Tiger Explorer will give its R1200GS rival a 135bhp mauling the firm has revealed. That makes the Explorer's all-new 1200cc+ motor 35% more powerful than its German rival's, at least for now, and on a par with the expected new Versys 1000. It also means it's the set to be the most powerful shaft-driven adventure tourer for the forseeable future.
Triumph has also indicated it will price the bike between £11k and £11,500 – which puts it into GS Adventure territory. But ABS, cruise and traction control will all come as standard. Low and high seat options will be available and a wide range of heated and electrical accessories will run simultaneously thanks to what Triumph describes as the Tiger Explorer’s best-in-class 950w generator.
TD
And 259kg apparently.
in much the same way that ducati's 150bhp multistrada has "given the gs a mauling" i expect
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I really can't see a company like BMW lying about the weight of it's motorcycles
I would imagine trading standards may have something to say about that. Plus just sitting and riding on one and comparing to all the others eg.1150, yamaha etc should be enough for you to see that its lighter by a good way over the competition. perhaps thats why it sells 5 times more of them than the competition 
Just realised I'm replying to Rashers post.....
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I find the whole "more power Scotty" quite confusing when it comes to bikes like the 1200GS/A. I have a sports bike with loads of power and the ability to hit 180mph any time I ask it so its not like I have never had power to know what its like. So that said (and this is an honest question) why do some people feel they need another 20-30 BHP?
For one it would totally destroy any off road ability as you would never get grip unless your very experienced or lean on electronics heavily. On the road, I personally just don't feel the need for it. I don't want to do 180 on a bike like the GS/A, it can already just about hit double the legal UK limit. Isn't that enough for a bike that to be blunt is a bit of a barge? Right now the front wheel has an appetite for the sky when loaded and I can't see that getting any better with more. It isn't even as if its slow off the mark either. OK it doesn't rocket off into the distance like a sports bike but its not supposed to. People already complain about the fuel consumption on them and that's not going to improve with more power.
For one it would totally destroy any off road ability as you would never get grip unless your very experienced or lean on electronics heavily. On the road, I personally just don't feel the need for it. I don't want to do 180 on a bike like the GS/A, it can already just about hit double the legal UK limit. Isn't that enough for a bike that to be blunt is a bit of a barge? Right now the front wheel has an appetite for the sky when loaded and I can't see that getting any better with more. It isn't even as if its slow off the mark either. OK it doesn't rocket off into the distance like a sports bike but its not supposed to. People already complain about the fuel consumption on them and that's not going to improve with more power.
rodders
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Where the weight is makes a lot of difference to how heavy it feels , I had a jota back in the late 70s and that was top heavy but probably lighter than the GS...
Human Nature
I miss the sportsbikes ability to go stupidly quick, even though I very rarely used more speed than a GS can muster, and in fact I found it a real pain not being able to thrash the bike as second would see it past the ton and third was good for a genuine 138 (confirmed by Santa Pod Drag Strip) which equalled 145 on the speedo....
Yet I miss the "comfort" of knowing I could win virtually any dual carriageway burn up (even though I most likely would not bother anyway) and possibly the bragging rights, again I was never really into bragging, but knowing you could win such pissing contests down the pub was nice.
Having a bike that "only" does 130 ish seems quite crap, although the sub 4 second 0-60 is impressive I know by a ton a fair number of turbo cars are as quick - no matter that I prefer to stop before 3 figures for the sake of my licence, it stil sort of bugs me I have such a slow vehicle.
Last weekends demo involved 3 bikes that were great fun to ride partially because I could rag them through the gears and it made me feel that I was actually capable of using more than 50% of the available performance.
One of the attractions of the MTS, and I suspect the upcoming Triumph and Honda's is that as well as being comfortable all round motorcycles they will also be able to kick-ass on the highway.
Although I am entirely happy at GS pace, my Ego still wants to be all macho, I somehow feel a bit embarrassed to say I am happy keeping below 3 figues or admit I think a bike that can't top 125mph is fast enough.
I agree there is not really much point upping the power of these bikes, but somehow it still seems attractive, possibly for some just so they can say their GS is faster than your GS.
If I really wanted a faster bike I would just go and buy one, but I do think any mods to improve the fuelling / grunt of a bike, or remove flat spots is worth the effort, often this brings a bit more BHP, but for me all I really want is more mid-range as that is where you spend most your time.
As I do a lot of two-up the ability to fire out of alpine hairpins is what I desire, not too bothered about top end, but would like a bit more low down thrust.
I miss the sportsbikes ability to go stupidly quick, even though I very rarely used more speed than a GS can muster, and in fact I found it a real pain not being able to thrash the bike as second would see it past the ton and third was good for a genuine 138 (confirmed by Santa Pod Drag Strip) which equalled 145 on the speedo....
Yet I miss the "comfort" of knowing I could win virtually any dual carriageway burn up (even though I most likely would not bother anyway) and possibly the bragging rights, again I was never really into bragging, but knowing you could win such pissing contests down the pub was nice.
Having a bike that "only" does 130 ish seems quite crap, although the sub 4 second 0-60 is impressive I know by a ton a fair number of turbo cars are as quick - no matter that I prefer to stop before 3 figures for the sake of my licence, it stil sort of bugs me I have such a slow vehicle.
Last weekends demo involved 3 bikes that were great fun to ride partially because I could rag them through the gears and it made me feel that I was actually capable of using more than 50% of the available performance.
One of the attractions of the MTS, and I suspect the upcoming Triumph and Honda's is that as well as being comfortable all round motorcycles they will also be able to kick-ass on the highway.
Although I am entirely happy at GS pace, my Ego still wants to be all macho, I somehow feel a bit embarrassed to say I am happy keeping below 3 figues or admit I think a bike that can't top 125mph is fast enough.
I agree there is not really much point upping the power of these bikes, but somehow it still seems attractive, possibly for some just so they can say their GS is faster than your GS.
If I really wanted a faster bike I would just go and buy one, but I do think any mods to improve the fuelling / grunt of a bike, or remove flat spots is worth the effort, often this brings a bit more BHP, but for me all I really want is more mid-range as that is where you spend most your time.
As I do a lot of two-up the ability to fire out of alpine hairpins is what I desire, not too bothered about top end, but would like a bit more low down thrust.
Human Nature
I miss the sportsbikes ability to go stupidly quick, even though I very rarely used more speed than a GS can muster, and in fact I found it a real pain not being able to thrash the bike as second would see it past the ton and third was good for a genuine 138 (confirmed by Santa Pod Drag Strip) which equalled 145 on the speedo....
Yet I miss the "comfort" of knowing I could win virtually any dual carriageway burn up (even though I most likely would not bother anyway) and possibly the bragging rights, again I was never really into bragging, but knowing you could win such pissing contests down the pub was nice.
Having a bike that "only" does 130 ish seems quite crap, although the sub 4 second 0-60 is impressive I know by a ton a fair number of turbo cars are as quick - no matter that I prefer to stop before 3 figures for the sake of my licence, it stil sort of bugs me I have such a slow vehicle.
Last weekends demo involved 3 bikes that were great fun to ride partially because I could rag them through the gears and it made me feel that I was actually capable of using more than 50% of the available performance.
One of the attractions of the MTS, and I suspect the upcoming Triumph and Honda's is that as well as being comfortable all round motorcycles they will also be able to kick-ass on the highway.
Although I am entirely happy at GS pace, my Ego still wants to be all macho, I somehow feel a bit embarrassed to say I am happy keeping below 3 figues or admit I think a bike that can't top 125mph is fast enough.
I agree there is not really much point upping the power of these bikes, but somehow it still seems attractive, possibly for some just so they can say their GS is faster than your GS.
If I really wanted a faster bike I would just go and buy one, but I do think any mods to improve the fuelling / grunt of a bike, or remove flat spots is worth the effort, often this brings a bit more BHP, but for me all I really want is more mid-range as that is where you spend most your time.
As I do a lot of two-up the ability to fire out of alpine hairpins is what I desire, not too bothered about top end, but would like a bit more low down thrust.
Bob will be along in a minute!
I'm looking forward to this!
rodders
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You'll think 130 is fast enough if you need to stop in a hurry....
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Yuk :-
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