ABS fucked up MOT woes

If you take it to an different test station tape may work - but if the same tester he might just notice the tape and fail you again. I'd just whip the bulb out - no way he could know its not fixed then.
 
Thank you Fanum and St Eptoe.

Bulbs ARE working.
front brake lever is free and unimpeded.

I will try again in the morn to sort this shit out.

Am I right then, based on your wise words, to believe that covering the lights with tape - the brakes do work! - will be enough for the MOT?

Cheers!

Don't go leading yourself up blind alleys checking for stuff that doesn't apply to your bike (read Steptoes post 16 earlier). Things like brake levers and bulbs only apply to servo bikes.
 
.. and cables are fine. Spoken to my local MOT geezer and a piece of tape aint gonna cut the mustard :(

There's no requirement that abs works, it's not even mentioned in the testers manual, nor is any lights flashing an issue, these are a requirement for the car mot, they are not mentioned in the bike mot

http://www.motuk.co.uk/manual/mc_contents.htm
 
There's no requirement that abs works, it's not even mentioned in the testers manual, nor is any lights flashing an issue, these are a requirement for the car mot, they are not mentioned in the bike mot

http://www.motuk.co.uk/manual/mc_contents.htm

I haven't looked, but seem to remember something in the manual about 'inappropriate repair to braking system' being a fail - i.e if a component isn't working correctly its a fail..... But if it all "appears to work correctly" it shouldn't fail - if the light don't flash it works ok
 
My 1150GS passed an MOT last month with the lights flashing away (and ABS not working). Never even batted an eyelid at it. Same are yours though, it's doing it on the turn of the key rather than pressing the starter but I've not worked out what is up yet and it's not resetting.
 
I haven't looked, but seem to remember something in the manual about 'inappropriate repair to braking system' being a fail - i.e if a component isn't working correctly its a fail..... But if it all "appears to work correctly" it shouldn't fail - if the light don't flash it works ok

The only mention is that if the abs is faulty then an advisory must be given!

Which means it doesn't need to work to pass!
 
My 1150GS passed an MOT last month with the lights flashing away (and ABS not working). Never even batted an eyelid at it.

Likewise, mine has done this every year since I got it. Unless I gave it 5 seconds after turning the ignition on before pressing the starter button, it used to fail its abs self test every time - the MOT tester never did this ;)

I've got a MOT tomorrow - a new starter motor means for the first time the abs is likely to be working - wonder what the tester will do? :D
 
There's no requirement that abs works, it's not even mentioned in the testers manual, nor is any lights flashing an issue, these are a requirement for the car mot, they are not mentioned in the bike mot

http://www.motuk.co.uk/manual/mc_contents.htm

If your motorbike has ABS warning lights, these will also need to be working properly.

From HERE

And from the VOSA Motorcycle MOT manual:

The VOSA MOT manual for motorcycles says,

14. If the vehicle is fitted with an antilock braking system (ABS), check that a system warning light is
a) fitted
b) visible from the driving position
c) operational

reason for rejection is,

14. An antilock braking system (ABS) warning lamp;
a) missing
b) not visible from the driving position
c) inoperative

More.....

BRAKES

In day-to-day riding there is perhaps no more important part of your bikes equipment that, when working properly, may just save your life! It is also the
third highest reason for failure in MOT testing.

The examiner will:

Check the hoses for fluid leaks, bulges & cracking
Check disc brakes are securely mounted and free from cracks
Check ABS warning lights, where fitted
Check the wheel is free to rotate without brake drag in free-wheel
Check that brake pads/shoes are not warn beyond limits
Check the rear brake torque arm is secure and that fasteners are secured by self-locking nuts or castellated nuts with split-pins or R-clips
 
Mot tester would have to ride the bike for abs to set right?.
 
So I quote the official MOT testers manual, and to prove me wrong you quote an advertisement from some mot station?

I think I win at top MOT trumps:D

I think you do ;)

I've just done the same google search as Bill (probably).

He appears to have quoted the one result that confirmed his conjecture :D

Edit: he's edited his post - done a bit more googling :D
 
Some useful information

Extracted from from this source:-

http://www.largiader.com/abs/absfault.html

ABS2

ABS2 uses the same two warning lights as ABS1: the ABS light and the bulb monitor light.*

At key-on, the two lights will flash together and continue to do so until the self-test is complete (which doesn't happen until you start to ride away), at which time they extinguish.*

If the self-test fails, they will begin to flash alternately. The exact moment when the fault happens will help you know what caused it: if it happens before you start the engine it is an item that is tested at power-up. If it fails when you start the engine, it is almost certainly low battery voltage. And if it fails when you ride away, it's probably a modulator or a wheel speed sensor.

It might be worth reading the whole article. Because by using a simple 12v LED it is possible to read the fault codes. The problem could be as simple as a failed ABS relay ( the one located under the cover on the ABS module).

Ian:thumb2
 


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