ABS Removed...MOT ??

[Number 6]

Last time I had my ABS 1100 MOT'd (my first one with this bike) the tester looked it up on his PC (as they do these days with the computerised test) and said 'oh it's an ABS bike - I've just got to test it works'. He proceeded to back it out of his shop and tested it by using the back brake 'enthusiastically' on his gravel car park.

ABS function is not part of the MOT test for bikes or cars. He was being a dick.

 

[MattW]

ABS function is not part of the MOT test for bikes or cars. He was being a dick.

I'll pass this on next time I go for an MOT.

Wonder if it'll pass?....

 

[D6]

abs/LINKED BRAKE function is mentioned in the mot book, however testing it down the road isnt, its the same basic test as non abs, (slight variation if linked)
the tester needs to know , incase the ignition needs leaving on etc, incase of servo,s and the like,
that is all, if its servo,d(and not turned on) or linked/abs, the overall efficiency result could be lower, so its best the tester knows, isnt it?
mattw,
yes, your tester is a dick, he could have fallen off
test rides are only when something cant be proved indoors, abs did not need to be proved,

 

[D6]

Method of Inspection(car)



This ABS inspection applies to all systems fitted as 'standard', and to 'optional' systems fitted.
When testing vehicles that have ABS fitted the road wheels should not be allowed to rotate clear of the standing surface with the ignition on as this can cause the ABS system to indicate a fault which may require specialist equipment to rectify

Missing components
Where a vehicle is presented for test with an ABS component obviously missing but, follows the correct sequence of operation, the defect must be brought to the attention of the presenter.



(bike)
non stated , but the reasons are in my previous post

 

[Number 6]

the tester needs to know , incase the ignition needs leaving on etc, incase of servo,s and the like,
that is all, if its servo,d(and not turned on) or linked/abs, the overall efficiency result could be lower, so its best the tester knows, isnt it?
mattw,

My GS (with servo brakes ) has always been MOTed with the ignition 'OFF' ie residual braking only. The tester said that was the correct way to do it.

 

[Number 6]

Method of Inspection(car)



This ABS inspection applies to all systems fitted as 'standard', and to 'optional' systems fitted.
When testing vehicles that have ABS fitted the road wheels should not be allowed to rotate clear of the standing surface with the ignition on as this can cause the ABS system to indicate a fault which may require specialist equipment to rectify

Missing components
Where a vehicle is presented for test with an ABS component obviously missing but, follows the correct sequence of operation, the defect must be brought to the attention of the presenter.

There is no actual test of whether ABS is functional or not. As long as all the warning lights operate correctly then it's a pass.

 

[sproggy]

My GS (with servo brakes ) has always been MOTed with the ignition 'OFF' ie residual braking only. The tester said that was the correct way to do it.

That seems ridiculous to me since it's not representative of how the brakes work when you're riding. What if the servo was operating only intermittently? They don't brake-test cars with the engine off (servo not operating) do they? So why should they do that on a bike with servo brakes? Probably through ignorance of the system - few bikes have servos.

 

[ktmmark]

I do both as they lock very easy with the servo running
The computer (mot computer) will say this vehicle fitted with abs as standard
i had vosa made a hgv company refit a complete abs system when they had removed it as it was faulty.
You will fail for a number plate light not working yet the engine can be held in with a rope

 

[D6]

My GS (with servo brakes ) has always been MOTed with the ignition 'OFF' ie residual braking only. The tester said that was the correct way to do it.

he,s wrong. look in the manual, and updates,
and if an engines held in by a rope, its a "refuse to test",

 

[(RIP) willstatt]

Have been thinking about having the abs removed from my '01 GS for ages. It's such an antiquated and slow system, that I'd like to bin it (and save a bit of weight)

Is it a big job? and roughly how much should it cost to have done?

Will

 

[ktmmark]

The rope was just to show what's not in the test, many people think if it has an mot the engine, clutch gearbox etc are in good condition, the amount of times somthing goes wrong and they come in and say well it only passed it's mot last week

 

[Number 6]

Have been thinking about having the abs removed from my '01 GS for ages. It's such an antiquated and slow system, that I'd like to bin it (and save a bit of weight)

Is it a big job? and roughly how much should it cost to have done?

Will

The earlier systems, like yours, are much easier to remove. If you're capable of bleeding the brakes then you can do the work yourself. It would probably cost you less than £50 in parts and brake fluid. Try searching the forum, there are quite a few threads covering different models.

 

[MOTOTECH]

The MOT test in the North is a joke.
If they bother to test the brakes at all, it will be grab the lever & try to push the bike.
I have lost count of the number of ABS removals I have done now, but have put a few bikes through the test that I have removed ABS on & never had a problem.
What I have had mentioned was the poor braking on servo bikes with the ignition off.
The ABS sensors were left because I didn't see the need to remove the front & the rear fills a great big hole.
If the tester asks, you could always say they are sensors for the traction control. That'll confuse them!
The ABS relay has been removed, so no warning lights show.

Brian

Liitle note to Jaythro.
I don't like your insinuation that the ABS may not have been removed fully or correctly.
Like you, I have a long & hard earned reputation for quality work, you don't see me making comment about other peoples work on this forum.

 

[sockpuppet]

I don't like your insinuation that the ABS may not have been removed fully or correctly.

I used a 2lb lump hammer. There is your problem only using 1.5