Alarm fob not behaving

[Slipperyeel]

2011 GSA. I have the OEM alarm working and it's set to auto arm at 'ignition off'. Disarms with 'ignition on'. So generally, the fob doesn't get used.

BUT. When cleaning it or on a train/ferry, I want to switch off the motion sensor. This is done by pressing the textured button within about 3sec of 'ignition off'.

In short, despite getting a flashing led in the fob, nothing happens. In fact I can press either of the buttons and bugger all happens.

I'm wondering if in fact it's the alarm battery that needs replacing? It did chirp once some months back (posted on here), but it's been fine ever since. And it would make sense from an age perspective... So maybe I should get in there anyway and do it.

Anyone else had the alarm fob do this - well ok, I mean do nothing

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[oblertone]

Fob misbehaving = Change battery

 

[Santa-2512]

Fob misbehaving = Change battery

+1 that would be my first port of call, followed by use the second fob (and change the battery in that fecker too)

 

[tornadof3]

Clearly action 1 is change the battery, they take the CR2032 type. If that doesn't work then...

I've had a long-running experience with these alarm fobs - eating batteries in 2 weeks, and not transmitting (my fob wouldn't "arm" the alarm so I didn't use it for a year or so). About 2 weeks ago, I bit the bullet and read up on it. Turns out a common fault is the microswitches on the circuit board inside the fob 'break' inside or the solder holding them on breaks and leads to discontinuity in the circuit. Assuming you're referring to a fob that looks like this:

then the replacement microswitches cost 99p on ebay and look like this:

[eg: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Best-Car...e=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649]

I soldered in a new "arm" microswitch to the circuit board; was very easy to do the 'arm' button as there are no other circuit tracks near it so my ham-fisted soldering wasn't an issue (the "disarm" button has two other circuit tracks close by so you'd need a steady hand and a fine soldering iron). Fixed my problem straight away and the replacement microswitch seems better quality than the original. I now have a fully working alarm and remote fobs.

 

[Slipperyeel]

Fob misbehaving = Change battery

+1 that would be my first port of call, followed by use the second fob (and change the battery in that fecker too)

Thanks gents. I think you're both right. So I have ordered some new batteries - for the fobs AND the alarm unit under the seat. I've had the rest of the bike apart over this last month. It should be a doddle to do this preventative measure! Famous last words

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[Slipperyeel]

Clearly action 1 is change the battery, they take the CR2032 type. If that doesn't work then...

I've had a long-running experience with these alarm fobs - eating batteries in 2 weeks, and not transmitting (my fob wouldn't "arm" the alarm so I didn't use it for a year or so). About 2 weeks ago, I bit the bullet and read up on it. Turns out a common fault is the microswitches on the circuit board inside the fob 'break' inside or the solder holding them on breaks and leads to discontinuity in the circuit. Assuming you're referring to a fob that looks like this:

then the replacement microswitches cost 99p on ebay and look like this:

[eg: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Best-Car...e=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649]

I soldered in a new "arm" microswitch to the circuit board; was very easy to do the 'arm' button as there are no other circuit tracks near it so my ham-fisted soldering wasn't an issue (the "disarm" button has two other circuit tracks close by so you'd need a steady hand and a fine soldering iron). Fixed my problem straight away and the replacement microswitch seems better quality than the original. I now have a fully working alarm and remote fobs.

This is really info. Thank you!

If changing the batteries in the fobs and the alarm unit does nothing, you've given me the next thing to check. Though I am getting a fast flashing of the fob led, suggesting the buttons are working?

Thanks!

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[Santa-2512]

This is really info. Thank you!

If changing the batteries in the fobs and the alarm unit does nothing, you've given me the next thing to check. Though I am getting a fast flashing of the fob led, suggesting the buttons are working?

Thanks!

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If youve changes the batteries, the fobs need resyncing to the alarm

do a search the process is documented in a thread

 

[Slipperyeel]

If youve changes the batteries, the fobs need resyncing to the alarm

do a search the process is documented in a thread

Thanks. Slightly aware of that. Hoping it's not as complicated as it looks!

Batteries here tomorrow. I'll be back for more help soon after

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[TLSgazza]

When the batteries in my alarm unit were low I had dwalo displayed on the dash. If you don't have that maybe they are ok. Especially as you say it self arms ok.

 

[tornadof3]

If youve changes the batteries, the fobs need resyncing to the alarm

having gone through about 10 sets of batteries prior to (what I hope is) the final fix, I never actually had to re-sync; just changed the batteries, press both buttons and it works.

 

[Slipperyeel]

When the batteries in my alarm unit were low I had dwalo displayed on the dash. If you don't have that maybe they are ok. Especially as you say it self arms ok.

I'm thinking that being 9yrs old, they can't be far off the end of their life... So I think I'm going to change them anyway, before the message appears into the dash... I'll do this before I change the fob batteries.

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[Santa-2512]

I'm thinking that being 9yrs old, they can't be far off the end of their life... So I think I'm going to change them anyway, before the message appears into the dash... I'll do this before I change the fob batteries.

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The fob battery takes 10 mins inc the resync the underseat takes far longer ....

Id go for the easy option first

 

[tornadof3]

I'm thinking that being 9yrs old, they can't be far off the end of their life... So I think I'm going to change them anyway, before the message appears into the dash... I'll do this before I change the fob batteries.

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I've never changed the battery in the alarm unit itself and bike is 12 years old so probably too is on its way to needing doing. Perhaps when you change yours you can post back with some instructions on how you did, what type of battery is required how much they cost etc

 

[Slipperyeel]

The fob battery takes 10 mins inc the resync the underseat takes far longer ....

Id go for the easy option first

You might have sold your logic to me... Batteries arrive tomorrow or Saturday if I believe what I'm told...

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[Slipperyeel]

I've never changed the battery in the alarm unit itself and bike is 12 years old so probably too is on its way to needing doing. Perhaps when you change yours you can post back with some instructions on how you did, what type of battery is required how much they cost etc

I'm quite impressed with the lifespan of those batteries. But it suggests they're only used when the alarm is left for a long period and 'sleeps'?

Can't imagine it's not taking out of the main battery the rest of the time? But 12yrs is quite a time for any battery

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[TLSgazza]

I'm quite impressed with the lifespan of those batteries. But it suggests they're only used when the alarm is left for a long period and 'sleeps'?

Can't imagine it's not taking out of the main battery the rest of the time? But 12yrs is quite a time for any battery

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I did mine last year. Bike was 13 year old and closing in on 100.000 miles at this point.
https://www.ukgser.com/forums/showthread.php/501535-DWALO-ON-DASH

 

[Slipperyeel]

I did mine last year. Bike was 13 year old and closing in on 100.000 miles at this point.
https://www.ukgser.com/forums/showthread.php/501535-DWALO-ON-DASH

Saw your post. Can't believe it was a year ago .

Helpful write up. I'll be referring back to it when I do mine!

Cheers

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[Slipperyeel]

Update:

Jobs done - all batteries replaced! Contrary to some thoughts above.

First I changed the fob battery. I did this well out of range from the bike. I didn't need to do any re-synching to the alarm.

There was no change to the fob behaviour. So I got the tools out and replaced the batteries in the alarm itself. It now all behaves as per the manual! Hooray. Because from the fob, it never did quite behave.

It took me an hour and a half, because on the disassembly the two front screws holding the large understand plastic panel didn't behave. I had to drill off the heads and replace them. They had been assembled with thread lock. I have this idea someone else has been in there before me...? Daft place to use thread lock because most of its plastic, so you can't really warm it all up enough.

Anyway. Job done, thanks to into on here

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