Amateur tackles spline lube on Final Drive

If its seized on the rear shaft bike will still run although the final drive shaft moves slightly on the front shaft. The movement is very small because BMW seem to have found a geometry that means the shaft is not constantly expanding and contracting - that said it does put stress on the shaft and the free rotation. I have a 2016 GSA (23000 miles and the final drive gaiter was in perfect condition) and the rear shaft was seized solid. So much so I had to drop the final drive off completely and remove the FD shaft from the front splines. Because I didnt want to stress the FD input bearings and shaft too much after basic attempts at separation the only way I could find was to use freeze spray (a penetrating oil) over 2 days to get the 2 surfaces to crack. I have to be honest the only other once it has got so bad (that I have seen used on YouTube vids) is to then cut the outer UJ head and then use a Bearing Puller to get the final part of the UJ off. Thats a complete new shaft required to rebuild so its worth persevering.
I was finally lucky and could split mine - after hours cleaning with a dremel circular wire head and wire wool I got mine back to std. Once rebuilt it is now fine but what I did notice is that the back wheel always used to run "lumpy" almost awkward and with some resistance - this is not the case anymore it now runs as smooth as silk.
Thinking about how smooth it now runs compared to before I would be interested to know if I get any fuel saving when I finally get to run it - I doubt it because the rubber stress joint in the final drive would have probably taken most of the "resistance" out of the process of delivering drive??
What I would say is that never again will I own a bike that I dont get to know a little better - in other words I will do the spline lubrication as part of the annual self service (the dealers wont do them) because it is a few quid in parts and a few hours of time. When I look at the state of the drive on my bike (2016 well looked after, good gaiter protectors, never pressure washed, and never off roaded or ridden in deep water) then I suspect that any Lubrication at the factory on build up was a courtesy wipe over with a Greasy Molly rag. I reckon the best time to do the Lub would be before every scheduled Final drive oil change and then the dealer is dropping the oil (although you have to drop the oil anyway during the process but at least if you did it days before then you could replace the same oil and the seals and let the dealer change them days after.
if you really want to make the job easy then find a BUNG for the ABS speed sensor hole in the final drive during the process then you wouldnt have to drop the oil.

Rik
 
Can anyone post for me the "loads of grief" the rusty drive shaft has caused, much obliged.:thumb

And maybe just more than the one JB has offered from 8 years ago which was the UJ ....
 
Thanks for the comments. I am going to try again next weekend. Bike only done 8k did not seem that rusty on initial inspection. Think i will spray penetrating oil on it and let it soak overnight.

If the bike needed a new rear gator under warranty would BMW sort it under warranty or would they disconnect from the engine part and fit that way?
 
Doubt you would get a new Gator via warranty however they are only £40.00 delivered from Motorworks for a new one - I think they sometimes have used ones for half that price but I wouldnt bother with a used one because they can be a bit brittle if washed with detergent all the time.
If you manage to split the final drive UJ from the splines then no need to disconnect from front but if you cant split it then the only way off in one piece is by taking front spline off but even then i dont think it would fit over the shaft (i didnt try). Front shaft is easy enough to get back on but you need to use a piece of strong wire to hold the UJ in place while shoving it back on - the front gator needs to be unclipped to do this so best to avoid if you can. If there is not alot of rust on the shaft then soak with penetrating fluid and find a small drift chisel to prize between the UJ and the end of the spline and it should get it off - if you are replacing the Gator anyway use the gator as a way to allow the drift to lever the splines apart without damaging your final drive paint work - its split anyway so needs replacing......
 
Doubt you would get a new Gator via warranty however they are only £40.00 delivered from Motorworks for a new one - I think they sometimes have used ones for half that price but I wouldnt bother with a used one because they can be a bit brittle if washed with detergent all the time.
If you manage to split the final drive UJ from the splines then no need to disconnect from front but if you cant split it then the only way off in one piece is by taking front spline off but even then i dont think it would fit over the shaft (i didnt try). Front shaft is easy enough to get back on but you need to use a piece of strong wire to hold the UJ in place while shoving it back on - the front gator needs to be unclipped to do this so best to avoid if you can. If there is not alot of rust on the shaft then soak with penetrating fluid and find a small drift chisel to prize between the UJ and the end of the spline and it should get it off - if you are replacing the Gator anyway use the gator as a way to allow the drift to lever the splines apart without damaging your final drive paint work - its split anyway so needs replacing......
 
Oh god! I don’t even want to take a look at it now. :blast
 
This is what happens at 24K when all you've had is metal to metal... they wear out ... simples.
 

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Not talking about farm kit lol
That drive uj failed. Why ?
And I've got to go. As I'm reading "loads" of "loads of grief" post about this LOL

Its no big deal to drop the bevel box out of the way to clean & lubricate the splines on these machines. I do mine once a year because as an Engineer type & am capable of & enjoy doing so.
I believe that its good practice to this maintenance. it gives me the opportunity to check the rear end of the bike out, change the bevel box oil etc - its all part of the ownership experience to a lot of bikers. in industry, Cardon shafts / splined joints are checked / lubricated regularly as slight wear often leads to imbalance & subsequent failure. Mines a pristine early 2014 bike by the way
 
The rear shaft uj seized to the bevel box input splines on my RT1200 2014.The drive train and suspension felt rough.The slide action is needed for the paralever to work properly.Was a days job to remove the shaft and free it from the bevel box.Suspension and gearbox were transformed afterwards.Bike had 25k on it.Wish I'd done it earlier.Did my 1250 at the first service and will do it yearly now.
 
My first GS, purchased in 2000. Was maintained and loved. always went over the top ref servicing. Kept her for 14 years. 80 odd Thousand miles, all over Europe, Africa and Asia.
Four GSA's since then.
Splines .... Completely unnecessary . :blast
They never fail. But if it makes you happy to split and grease them, crack on:thumb
 

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I wonder if these BMW shaft drive owners strip their 2 or 4 car and van drive shafts down to re-grease every year ?
 
Well...just in case you want to get to know your moving parts...another how to.
 


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