Another design triumph?

[richardbd]

A bikermate who has purchased a new GSA has recently also received his long-awaited panniers.

Apparently the aluminium boxes have a nice, thick plastic rim around them, presumably to stiffen them up as they are made from Bacofoil. He says that the rim is so wide that you can’t get an inner bag through the opening that properly fills the pannier.

Sounds to me like the luggage was designed by the same bod who designed the bike

 

[Northern jock]

I’ll bet the price didn’t reflect the quality

Why take a good product and dumb it down just to make more profit? I’d rather provide top class products and make less money than dumb down to mass market junk.

 

[Arsey]

A bikermate who has purchased a new GSA has recently also received his long-awaited panniers.

Apparently the aluminium boxes have a nice, thick plastic rim around them, presumably to stiffen them up as they are made from Bacofoil. He says that the rim is so wide that you can’t get an inner bag through the opening that properly fills the pannier.

Sounds to me like the luggage was designed by the same bod who designed the bike

Yet if anybody dares suggest a better alternative, blinkered idiots like Onahi go off on one .
I guess some hard of thinking that blindly buy GSs also blindly stick with the sub-standard luggage too .

 

[JohnnyBoxer]

A bikermate who has purchased a new GSA has recently also received his long-awaited panniers.

Apparently the aluminium boxes have a nice, thick plastic rim around them, presumably to stiffen them up as they are made from Bacofoil. He says that the rim is so wide that you can’t get an inner bag through the opening that properly fills the pannier.

Sounds to me like the luggage was designed by the same bod who designed the bike

I have SW Motech alloy boxes
Those too have a plastic (and rubber seal) edge to the box and lid
No problems with getting inner bags to drop in though ?

Pannier & lid on



Lid off pannier, showing plastic seal

 

[Engineer]

1/4” thick stainless steel would negate the need for any extra cheap plastic strengthening - bikermates would then have nothing to complain about - why can’t BMW see that?

 

[leadfarmer]

1/4” thick stainless steel would negate the need for any extra cheap plastic strengthening - bikermates would then have nothing to complain about - why can’t BMW see that?

Because they’d weigh a ton and cost a fortune

 

[Engineer]

Because they’d weigh a ton and cost a fortune

Just like the bike then

 

[Edventure]

All this banter about the the new GS/GSA makes me chuckle. It's a brilliant bike to ride and I'm enjoying mine.
Regarding the GSA panniers. I've not actually used them yet but thought I'd have a quick squint after the comments. I can see that the plastic reinforcing does narrow the opening at top of the hinged end but not that much. If your inner bags were rammed full I guess you would just need to tilt it to go in.
Will report back when I've used them in anger...

 

[JohnnyBoxer]

Plastic edges and rubber seals are a good design
They completely waterproof the panniers
BMW have just copied Givi and SW Motech now
I looked at every pannier option at ABR Festival a few years ago and the SW Motech were streets ahead in design/weight/finish/build quality and waterproofing
BMW have now caught up ….eventually

 

[trebor]

I was looking at the luggage for the new GSA just the other day, other than looking huge I thought they were OK.

 

[TaskMule]

A bikermate who has purchased a new GSA has recently also received his long-awaited panniers.

Apparently the aluminium boxes have a nice, thick plastic rim around them, presumably to stiffen them up as they are made from Bacofoil. He says that the rim is so wide that you can’t get an inner bag through the opening that properly fills the pannier.

Sounds to me like the luggage was designed by the same bod who designed the bike

Lets start a thread to complain about something some guy I know told me, on a bike I don't own and will never buy.

 

[Baked Bean]

Puch Maxis are shite.

 

[Edventure]

Actually the panniers do seem very well made and rigid. I don't where the bit about the rim being so wide come from.

A bikermate who has purchased a new GSA has recently also received his long-awaited panniers.

Apparently the aluminium boxes have a nice, thick plastic rim around them, presumably to stiffen them up as they are made from Bacofoil. He says that the rim is so wide that you can’t get an inner bag through the opening that properly fills the pannier.

Sounds to me like the luggage was designed by the same bod who designed the bike

rim is so wide that you can’t get an inner bag through the opening that properly fills the pannier.

If you look at the photo in my previous posts it shows reinforcing at the hinge end but apart from that the sides are very slim.

 

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Yet if anybody dares suggest a better alternative, blinkered idiots like Onahi go off on one .
I guess some hard of thinking that blindly buy GSs also blindly stick with the sub-standard luggage too .

 

[OnHellas]

It’s not the law to completely fill your luggage boxes….although you’d think it is for those that then need a roll bag on the back seat…for a weekend away.

 

[grantmac]

All this banter about the the new GS/GSA makes me chuckle. It's a brilliant bike to ride and I'm enjoying mine.
Regarding the GSA panniers. I've not actually used them yet but thought I'd have a quick squint after the comments. I can see that the plastic reinforcing does narrow the opening at top of the hinged end but not that much. If your inner bags were rammed full I guess you would just need to tilt it to go in.
Will report back when I've used them in anger...

my guess the extra plastic is there because of the new electrics and wiring? No idea....... Also i hope they are water proof. The older ones on my GSA 1250 leaked.....I'll report back when mine is delivered with panniers and top box. Would be worried if the metal is a thin a bacofoil...... ...and yes the price is bonkers in my mind as well.....

 

[Troppo]

A bikermate who has purchased a new GSA has recently also received his long-awaited panniers.

Apparently the aluminium boxes have a nice, thick plastic rim around them, presumably to stiffen them up as they are made from Bacofoil. He says that the rim is so wide that you can’t get an inner bag through the opening that properly fills the pannier.

Sounds to me like the luggage was designed by the same bod who designed the bike

Not possible. If they were designed by the blokes who designed the bike, they would work perfectly.

But then, what the fuck would you know?

Another GS hater in a GS forum.

 

[richardbd]

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Not possible. If they were designed by the blokes who designed the bike, they would work perfectly.

But then, what the fuck would you know?

Another GS hater in a GS forum.

 

[Arsey]

I’ll bet the price didn’t reflect the quality

Why take a good product and dumb it down just to make more profit? I’d rather provide top class products and make less money than dumb down to mass market junk.

I’d take the Bumot luggage over the BMW crap any day. Cheaper, better design, and much better quality. Even fits straight on to the hideous GSA scaffolding . Ok, it’s missing a power socket, but if you chose your panniers based on whether they have power then I feel you’ve lost the plot.

 

[richardbd]

Not possible. If they were designed by the blokes who designed the bike, they would work perfectly.

But then, what the fuck would you know?

Another GS hater in a GS forum.

Actually I’ve owned four boxers and a parallel twin GS in the last decade.

The RT was a BMW recall because it was (quite literally) a death trap. The 1200GS had at least three recalls that I can remember (fork shims etc). The 1250GS had those foot pegs that kept falling off. The 850 had failed switchgear and leaky auxiliary lights (a problem that the RT and the 1200GS also had).

The only one that has “worked perfectly” is the UGS. I still have it and like it a lot.

As for the 1300, apart from the GSA having looks that only a mother could love, you don’t have to read far on here to get to tales of woe about failed switch gear and panniers that either fall off or don’t work - and that’s after you’ve waited 18 months for them to be delivered. Even replacement engines on factory-fresh bikes.

I’m no GS hater but I am bored with being a factory Beta-tester so I’ve switched brands.

Turns out you can still buy bikes that don’t have to go back to the dealer umpteen times a year and that the paint still sticks to after more than a few days in the rain…