Apple CarPlay on a bike…

[er-minio]

I haven't looked at it properly as I'm not that fussed using CarPlay on the bike for now, as I do have navi (Garmin) and music control (Cardo/Spotify).
I do use CarPlay a fair amount in the cars (alongside with the OEM system) and for the last couple of months I've been abroad and I've been experimenting with it regarding more complex type of road navigation, there is a topic on it.

CarPlay is designed to keep distractions to a minimum, so only CarPlay approved apps are available in your multimedia unit/tft screen and, when used from the multimedia unit, those apps have a fairly limited set of functionalities usually. This is by design to avoid distracting the driver.

I've seen ads for those third party CarPlay screens on Instagram.
I do believe that some of those work as remote multimedia units and the phone will connect normally via the CarPlay protocol.

I do fear that some of those screens are just... that. Remote screens to which you can just "airplay" the phone's screen. Same way as you would do on a TV.

A third option (most plausible) is that some of the videos and screenshots in the ads for those chinese crappy screens are just complete fakes. So they Photoshopped in some non real scenarios (eg. reading emails).

 

[Team McQueen]

I haven't looked at it properly as I'm not that fussed using CarPlay on the bike for now, as I do have navi (Garmin) and music control (Cardo/Spotify).
I do use CarPlay a fair amount in the cars (alongside with the OEM system) and for the last couple of months I've been abroad and I've been experimenting with it regarding more complex type of road navigation, there is a topic on it.

CarPlay is designed to keep distractions to a minimum, so only CarPlay approved apps are available in your multimedia unit/tft screen and, when used from the multimedia unit, those apps have a fairly limited set of functionalities usually. This is by design to avoid distracting the driver.

I've seen ads for those third party CarPlay screens on Instagram.
I do believe that some of those work as remote multimedia units and the phone will connect normally via the CarPlay protocol.

I do fear that some of those screens are just... that. Remote screens to which you can just "airplay" the phone's screen. Same way as you would do on a TV.

A third option (most plausible) is that some of the videos and screenshots in the ads for those chinese crappy screens are just complete fakes. So they Photoshopped in some non real scenarios (eg. reading emails).

Totally - it is tempting to find one that does it properly though.

Although I’m also guessing chances of being able to use ordnance survey maps on CarPlay is very unlikely?

That would be the clincher for me as could locate green lanes on the move (up to a point) and pre plan routes further afield with directions getting to green lane start points etc.

 

[er-minio]

There is some OSM-based maps with green lanes (data from the councils, updated each year) added. I use those instead of OS maps on my Garmin devices when greenlaning or hiking.

I haven't currently found any iOS app that can load those type of Maps. I haven't tried loading them into OSMand, not sure that is possible (at least on iOS).

Use of these type of maps is why I do stick to specific Garmin devices on the bikes (and a couple of other reasons) despite the clunkiness.


By the way, post on various types of navi (in car) here: https://www.ukgser.com/community/threads/following-a-gps-route-in-the-car.360305
I'll add some more when back in the UK next week.
To me the options are fairly disappointing. I do believe the best choice might be MRA (that I really dislike) as I also see from the pictures that Arsey posted above. I believe that to be MRA in his screen.

 

[Barnoe]

I use a good app "Auto-Mate" on my Android.
Had to find an alternative when Google done away with "Android Auto for Phone"

It's set up to launch automatically when my phone connects to my Cardo.

Almost mimics the functionality of Android Auto. (maps, music player, phone etc)

I just got Automate... wtf
its a coding/programming thing lol nothing what i expected....... must be the wrong app

 

[Team McQueen]

There is some OSM-based maps with green lanes (data from the councils, updated each year) added. I use those instead of OS maps on my Garmin devices when greenlaning or hiking.

I haven't currently found any iOS app that can load those type of Maps. I haven't tried loading them into OSMand, not sure that is possible (at least on iOS).

Use of these type of maps is why I do stick to specific Garmin devices on the bikes (and a couple of other reasons) despite the clunkiness.


By the way, post on various types of navi (in car) here: https://www.ukgser.com/community/threads/following-a-gps-route-in-the-car.360305
I'll add some more when back in the UK next week.
To me the options are fairly disappointing. I do believe the best choice might be MRA (that I really dislike) as I also see from the pictures that Arsey posted above. I believe that to be MRA in his screen.

Ahh…at risk of hijacking thread sorry - but I’d be really interested to know which garmins can do this.
I may just add an old second hand garmin to the f800gs for greenlaning, as it will give me road directions too if needed and keep my phone in pocket.
Won’t be bothered if an old sat nav is broken or stolen.

 

[er-minio]

Ahh…at risk of hijacking thread sorry - but I’d be really interested to know which garmins can do this.

I'd rather not OT this thread. I'll send you a link to the relevant conversation in the Garmin space.

Couple links where to look and, maybe, continue the OT:

Cheapo Garmin GPS for trail riding

I'm currently the (happy) owner of a Zumo XT. I used for green laning on the GS and does the job perfectly. It is a bit big (and exposed) on my thumper though. Haven't wired it in yet. I'm looking at alternative positioning so it would be a bit more protected from any random hits (putting it...

www.ukgser.com

GPS - I'm undecided, what would you do?

The same as most things, as much as possible. Not very constructive :D For example, do you want to use it regularly for full-on proper ‘Off Road’ navigation? If so, your Nav V (whilst still a very good device) might not be your first choice. Similarly, you haven’t answered the reasonable...

www.ukgser.com

 

[younger06]

I just got Automate... wtf
its a coding/programming thing lol nothing what i expected....... must be the wrong app

It's this one...

Sent by an Android

 

[Barnoe]

Too old for my phone ffs

 

[andysdad]

I use a good app "Auto-Mate" on my Android.
Had to find an alternative when Google done away with "Android Auto for Phone"

Looks like you run Android 11 or earlier if you can run Automate - Android Auto works on Android 8 and up; how old is your phone?.

 

[Arsey]

There is some OSM-based maps with green lanes (data from the councils, updated each year) added. I use those instead of OS maps on my Garmin devices when greenlaning or hiking.

I haven't currently found any iOS app that can load those type of Maps. I haven't tried loading them into OSMand, not sure that is possible (at least on iOS).

Use of these type of maps is why I do stick to specific Garmin devices on the bikes (and a couple of other reasons) despite the clunkiness.


By the way, post on various types of navi (in car) here: https://www.ukgser.com/community/threads/following-a-gps-route-in-the-car.360305
I'll add some more when back in the UK next week.
To me the options are fairly disappointing. I do believe the best choice might be MRA (that I really dislike) as I also see from the pictures that Arsey posted above. I believe that to be MRA in his screen.

Yup, used MRA via CarPlay on Wing for 2000 mile trip in June and it worked very well .


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[younger06]

Looks like you run Android 11 or earlier if you can run Automate - Android Auto works on Android 8 and up; how old is your phone?.

I'm running Android 13 on a Samsung S20 and it works perfectly.

Sent by an Android

 

[andysdad]

Younger06 - so you are running Auto-mate on Android 13?

It won't load from Google Play for me on Android 12 (or Barnoe judging by his screenshot). Curious.

 

[younger06]

Younger06 - so you are running Auto-mate on Android 13?

It won't load from Google Play for me on Android 12 (or Barnoe judging by his screenshot). Curious.

Yep.....

Below (or above) screenshots of the app open on my phone.....just now.
Samsung S20 5G running the most up to date Android 13 (that's the last Android version the S20 is gonna get)

Sent by an Android

 

[younger06]

Younger06 - so you are running Auto-mate on Android 13?

It won't load from Google Play for me on Android 12 (or Barnoe judging by his screenshot). Curious.

as mentioned...

Sent by an Android

 

[stever1]

Yup, used MRA via CarPlay on Wing for 2000 mile trip in June and it worked very well .


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So. What was your thought on the wing then ?

 

[Arsey]

So. What was your thought on the wing then ?

Fabulous


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[stever1]

Fabulous


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No. Be a bit more in depth. I know what I like, and dislike but I’d be interested to know your thoughts.

 

[Arsey]

No. Be a bit more in depth. I know what I like, and dislike but I’d be interested to know your thoughts.

Have a look in the Wing thread . Pretty sure I have a brief update there after my trip in June


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[ianran]

I used Car Play on my Africa Twin DCT, worked fine for me. I felt this would have been a better route than the BMW connected tripe. I guess that inline with their cars philosophy you will have to rent the options from them.

I currently have an S1000xr gen 2, I have a Connect phone thingy and tried it, meh. It will be my standby.
My main sat nav is now a nav 5 as the 6 is flakey. Slow but at least it’s reliable.

I find the control wheel is at its best around mountain roads so you can zoom in and see how tight the bends are.

 

[er-minio]

so you can zoom in and see how tight the bends are

Look at the road.
Easier and faster.