Are they taking the piss????

[rockchunk]

a feel yer pain mate ,,,only bought from a dealer the once and it wasnt a pleasant experience i always go private now i know it has its pitfalls but its a chance i take,,hope it turns oot awe right for you pal

 

[cookie]

In what way is my reality distorted, and if it is would you tell me what you mean as currently I dont have a clue... Ta very much for the help.....

don't mention it.

how much is the dealer going to sell your bike for? i can't see any proper dealer doing it for less than a grand on top of what he gives you.

in short, as you say, you're clueless about the motor trade.

HTH.

 

[WindyChuffer]

Welcome to the real world.

What was the bike you chopped in and how much did you pay for it?

Sounds like you got off lightly.

 

[Captain Black]

What do you think is fair then in your 500 mile/month of use ?

 

[v8legend]

These things always go the same way. We can only see things from our own point of view.

When the dealer sold you the bike he probably had a £1000 mark-up. If he buys it back he still wants to make the £1000 when he sells it again. I know you think he should just give you your money back and transfer any profit to the 1200, but that's not how they work.

 

[david a hall]

It isnt rocket science, the annual cost of running a dealership, divided by the number of bikes sold repaired serviced. Absolutely no room for sentiment in business.
Its so unfair

 

[Engineer]

Each transaction has a cost, time it remains in stock, salesman's time, paperwork time and costs DVLA etc, it needs to be checked out again by the mechanics before being re-sold etc etc etc. It sounds harsh but the dealer has wages and overheads to pay and they have to make a profit on every deal.

 

[GS TRV]

Grow up !

 

[AberdeenAngus]

Dont you take any shite from that stealer.
Just sell it privately.
Your bound to make your money back.
He'll, you might even make a profit.
That'll teach 'em.

 

[Old Codger]

Aint no registered charidee mate !

Take a good look around the Dealers.

All that gloss and furnishing required by the manufacturer comes at a price.

All the staff work for free and pay the heat ,light and business rates out of their own pockets etc etc. I don,t think so !

Who pays for it all ,you do every time you buy a bike, have it serviced or buy parts for it.

Stating the obvious so grow up and accept it.

Seasons greetings welcome to the real world

 

[STUBBS]

if your not happy go elsewhere and do the deal

 

[Smythson]

A car dealer once explained his process to me. In basic terms when buying a car he would work out what it would cost him to sell ( taking to auctions / advertising overheads / yard space / time spent ) then multiply this figure by 3 or 4 and subtract it from the price he would most likely sell at.

In your case ( or rather Bahnstormers) this cost figure would be 250 - 300 quid. Do you think that's unreasonable for their checking/taxing/ storing/ advertising the bike? I think due to the season they are unlikely to sell it anytime soon. Also at the stroke of midnight on new years that number plate becomes a whole year older in just a day regardless of mileage.

It may be worth holding out until the spring for two reasons - generally bike sales will go up during the spring but specific to you - a lot will be newer riders and perhaps more likely to want a lowered version until their confidence builds (the 658 being my first 'big' bike it was certainly a consideration for me - thus my lowered seat) . Also in the spring you've greater opportunities for private sale and greater sale value...

I'd never claim to be any expert in this field but hopefully a different point of view helps.

Best of luck whatever you decide.

S

 

[karlp]

£1000 seems reasonable to me.

Here is how it calculates out.

VAT that the dealer paid when you bought the bike.
One extra owner on the log book
500 extra miles on bike
Workshop costs to check over bike before it is sold to the next customer
Loss of interest on monies paid to you for the bike

Oh. And profit to pay for the dealership to pay for rent etc

 

[aspiring]

and dont forget,its not like selling a car.any bike is worth 500 quid less at christmas than if you were selling it at the beginning of the summer.why pay a fair wedge of money for a bike when you really wanted a 1200? trading up after a month is always gonna cost you.my best advice is to keep the bike another six or eighteen months,look after it then sell it privatly,probably for what the dealer is offering you for it this week

 

[mark2jag]

Grow up !

yeah Merry xmas to you too mate

 

[markymark]

What if at 28000 miles they don't want it back in stock
It may be clean but it's still alot of miles for a small engine

 

[JohnnyBoxer]

What if at 28000 miles they don't want it back in stock
It may be clean but it's still alot of miles for a small engine

Those miles are reasonably high, my GSA's are over 6 years old & only have 26k & 33k

A valid point, well made

 

[chas820]

I`m with Smythson on this Hang on until spring,bike prices tend to rise then after all who buys a bike this time of year?If it`s to low try that seat i pm`er you with and maybe buy a longer shock via Hagon.

 

[NeverRodeBefore]

The only person I know who got their money back was the bloke that owned my R1200GS before me. He'd been a long standing customer buying repeatedly new bikes. He had an unfortunate bike which he persevered with then chopped it in for another. This new bike failed a couple of days before a holiday and was only a month or two old.

He'd understandably had enough and the dealer got in touch with BMW and they covered all the money the dealer would've otherwise lost. Customer got all his money back, the dealer fixed the bike and sold it as secondhand with £1000 off the new list price, and BMW themselves paid the missing £1000.

 

[Tom]

Those miles are reasonably high, my GSA's are over 6 years old & only have 26k & 33k

A valid point, well made

Absolutely Johnny, these BMW things shouldn't be ridden for more than 4,000 miles a year. They are a bit fragile and if you did try to use them as touring bikes you might end up in a hire car