Base camp !!!! How frustrating.

[stolzy]

So I'm not the only one who finds it an antiquated piece of crap. I mean for fucks sake, it does not even predict addresses

It did not even recognise "the grey ones" Gasthof Hochalmspitze . Not the address, gps coordinates or the hotel. Bloody frustrating piece of shite.

Ok I'm still ranting

Jon

I searched for the same hotel today in BaseCamp and found it immediately.
I think most of what is wrong with BaseCamp is with the maps and nomenclature rather than the software, which I find OK.

 

[blues n twos]

Cheers for that Wapping, do you need to scroll the map to the approx point before searching then

Whenever I searched for my next stop the map was still showing the last destination. Maybe that's why I was having so much grief

 

[Wapping]

I was a dab hand at Mapsource on a PC. I then tried BaseCamp... I'll be the first to admit I found it hard on a PC, using a mousemat.

I then bought a Mac, Judge set it all up and I dived into BaseCamp, not least as i had bought a Nav V. Whoa... this is hard. I came within a whisker of giving up, buying another 660 off the site and calling it a day. But time and a looming Wander in March forced me to get on with it. Prior to that I had just been mucking about. The real need to learn and learn fast was the spur I needed.

A morning, a break, watch the rugby and a bit in the evening and it all suddenly made sense; made harder as I was also having to learn how to work a Mac and I'm far from IT literate.

I now love it. I would never return to a PC or Mapsource, though I do from time to time fire up my old PC to get an old route or look something up. These excursions into Microsoft are becoming more and more infrequent.

I also got the hang of working in BaseCamp on an 11" Macbook Air, though using a mouse.

Rather like the oddities of the Nav V / 590, it does take a bit of getting used to. i find plotting in Googlemaps and subsequent Tyre conversion tedious, though Googlemaps and street view do have their uses, for sure.

Richard

 

[Wapping]

I searched for the same hotel today in BaseCamp and found it immediately.
I think most of what is wrong with BaseCamp is with the maps and nomenclature rather than the software, which I find OK.

Things are looking up....

 

[blues n twos]

I've just bought a new laptop but it's not a Mac, I needed DVD burners for my moody films etc and it was £500 not £1500

It does have a fairly decent 17" screen though running windows 8.1. That in itself is a bugger to get used to so it's a double whammy for me. Basecamp and windows 8.1

Jon

 

[Dellis]

Works a treat on a Mac pile of crap on a pc! As discovered when my pal asked me to show him how it worked, I expected it to be the same or similar to how it works on my Mac but how wrong can you be!

Dave

 

[stolzy]

Just for the record, I use BaseCamp on a Mac too. Everything's easier on a Mac

 

[Wapping]

Cheers for that Wapping, do you need to scroll the map to the approx point before searching then

Whenever I searched for my next stop the map was still showing the last destination. Maybe that's why I was having so much grief

You don't have to, though the software's first port of call is where the map is centred. You know, near enough, that the Malta you need is in Austria. But it's a small village, which i doubt many bods from Vienna could point to. Never mind.... Hit the magnifying glass and cut a square into Austria; you have now narrowed it down... then go from there. People moan about the default being the map centre but it's actually quite good. Let's say you know you want to be in Nice, zoom it in and hit points of interest. It worked the same in Mapsource, too. Also, the displaying of places with say Malta making up just part of the name is quite good, particularly if your mate has told you, "I went to a great restaurant, the Malta...summat...in Berlin, I think"

The advanced trick, if there is one, is to search the town only and add the three country letter code. http://www.worldatlas.com/aatlas/ctycodes.htm

Street searching comes next... keep it as simple as possible. The way street addresses are stored is a bit odd but UK addresses look odd to Polish postmen, too. I know, we have one.

 

[The Grey One]

So I'm not the only one who finds it an antiquated piece of crap. I mean for fucks sake, it does not even predict addresses

It did not even recognise "the grey ones" Gasthof Hochalmspitze . Not the address, gps coordinates or the hotel. Bloody frustrating piece of shite.

Ok I'm still ranting

Jon

Now that is what I call serious, can't find us on Basecamp! .Mapsource will find us easily. You can find us on your device, even on a Nav V so I hope you get sorted Wouldn't want you to miss out on the free beer on arrival. I'm sure the Basecrap apologists will be along to tell you how to find us. I expect you have to stand on your left foot whilst whistling Colonel Boggie and then you only need 27 different clicks before Basecrap finds something near us.

John

 

[blues n twos]

Thanks Wapping, very helpful and I've saved the link to country codes

 

[stolzy]

Now that is what I call serious, can't find us on Basecamp! .Mapsource will find us easily. You can find us on your device, even on a Nav V so I hope you get sorted Wouldn't want you to miss out on the free beer on arrival. I'm sure the Basecrap apologists will be along to tell you how to find us. I expect you have to stand on your left foot whilst whistling Colonel Boggie and then you only need 27 different clicks before Basecrap finds something near us.

John

Fear not, Hochalmspitze is listed in the hotels in Malta in BC. Finding it might be another issue.

 

[blues n twos]

Now that is what I call serious, can't find us on Basecamp! .Mapsource will find us easily. You can find us on your device, even on a Nav V so I hope you get sorted Wouldn't want you to miss out on the free beer on arrival. I'm sure the Basecrap apologists will be along to tell you how to find us. I expect you have to stand on your left foot whilst whistling Colonel Boggie and then you only need 27 different clicks before Basecrap finds something near us.

John

Well it seems others have found you easily. I now realise I was making it difficult but I did watch the video tutorials but they were basic at best.

You are plotted in now John so make sure the beers nice and chilled

 

[Wapping]

Works a treat on a Mac pile of crap on a pc! As discovered when my pal asked me to show him how it worked, I expected it to be the same or similar to how it works on my Mac but how wrong can you be!

Dave

I'll second that!

 

[Wapping]

Well it seems others have found you easily. I now realise I was making it difficult but I did watch the video tutorials but they were basic at best.

You are plotted in now John so make sure the beers nice and chilled

The tutorials are good but only to a point. The searching is based on America's much simpler grid layout for towns and cities. Similarly, the UK's very narrow post code system is far more accurate than say France's where a single code covers 10's of square miles, as GPS device dependent Tossers have found to their cost



Anyway... Enough of this idle banter... I was meant to be plotting some routes!

 

[iand46]

I will try less then as I was inputting address line by line and was constantly getting " no info found"

Search box > type

Hochalmspitze Malta Austria

 

[iand46]

I mean for fucks sake, it does not even predict addresses

If you use addresses via the find tab it will predict them.

 

[blues n twos]

If you use addresses via the find tab it will predict them.

Will give it a go tomorrow

See..... Having a rant has gotten me some great tips and advice

 

[Wapping]

The thing to do is muck about with the Search function.

Zoom the map in and out. This is sort of crucial as its natural inclination is to search where the map happens to be centred. It also helps if you put the country in, too. For instance, Rome Italy. With the map zoomed out it should list the capital of Italy first, then work its way down to quite obscure places in Finland where the letters ROME happen to appear.

Put in places / addresses / post codes and just about anything where you KNOW where they are. Your house for instance, or your post code, a local hotel or a city in Scotland or in Italy, like Rome. It makes it easier to see what it did, why it might not work and why / how when it does, you'll be able recognise it.

All of a sudden you'll see how it works. How you can chose sub-sets of places, petrol stations, campsites, restaurants, streets. OK, it might not appear intuitive at first but it has a bizarre logic that's quite obvious when it dawns on you how it works. In short, rather like a Mac it forces you to think, whilst sometimes it just does it all on its own. The great thing is you really cannot break it.

PS If you get stuck, it is sometimes necessary to clear the old search data out.

For instance: Zoom the map right out. Into the search box type, Malta Austria. Up it will come. If you then ask it for lodgings, it will look first for hotels called Malta, or with the letters MALTA in their name. Of course that might be just what you want and you'll think it genius but less good if you want the Holmspitz or whatever it's called. Clear the Malta search and use the drop down boxes.... away you go.... up the correct hotel will pop.

You can then clear all that out and go straight to the city of Stockholm Sweden or Edinburgh Scotland or to my sister's small village of Northend in Warwickshire.

 

[The Grey One]

The thing to do is muck about with the Search function.

Zoom the map in and out. This is sort of crucial as its natural inclination is to search where the map happens to be centred. It also helps if you put the country in, too. For instance, Rome Italy. With the map zoomed out it should list the capital of Italy first, then work its way down to quite obscure places in Finland where the letters ROME happen to appear.

Put in places / addresses / post codes and just about anything where you KNOW where they are. Your house for instance, or your post code, a local hotel or a city in Scotland or in Italy, like Rome. It makes it easier to see what it did, why it might not work and why / how when it does, you'll be able recognise it.

All of a sudden you'll see how it works. How you can chose sub-sets of places, petrol stations, campsites, restaurants, streets. OK, it might not appear intuitive at first but it has a bizarre logic that's quite obvious when it dawns on you how it works. In short, rather like a Mac it forces you to think, whilst sometimes it just does it all on its own. The great thing is you really cannot break it.

PS If you get stuck, it is sometimes necessary to clear the old search data out.

For instance: Zoom the map right out. Into the search box type, Malta Austria. Up it will come. If you then ask it for lodgings, it will look first for hotels called Malta, or with the letters MALTA in their name. Of course that might be just what you want and you'll think it genius but less good if you want the Holmspitz or whatever it's called. Clear the Malta search and use the drop down boxes.... away you go.... up the correct hotel will pop.

You can then clear all that out and go straight to the city of Stockholm Sweden or Edinburgh Scotland or to my sister's small village of Northend in Warwickshire.

So can you explain why on my Basecamp the address search does not find us. Every time I open it it insists on returning to "top results" a bit like how Facebook tries to go to Top Stories, very frustrating , I don't want someone else's idea of a top result! If I put it on addresses is only lists some of the house numbers here and not our's. Because house numbers here are allocated in the sequence of construction not location you need the exact number to find a building. If I search using the points of interest there is no category for lodgings as on Mapsource. I have noticed, by the way, that lodgings listings are tucked away on the later devices you have to search for it more than on say a 660, progress?

I find it difficult to warm to Basecamp, I have to use it but it is far more awkward to use than it needs to be. There are many route planners out there that do the basic job in a simple, easily understood manner. As a replacement for Mapsource, Basecamp should have had this simplicity in it's basic functions. Being able to do lots of fancy things is all well and good but if the basic functions are not easily mastered people will go no further. I understand that it offers some advantages but the price is high in terms of the effort required to unlock any of these. That it works better on a Mac is not much help to the rest of us using PCs. I can think of far more productive ways of spending my free time.

John

 

[ebbo]

You can angle the map anyway you like, FFS either that our you are looking for street bazars... A bizarre thing to look for but each to their own.

Are you using a laptop and a mousemat (or whatever they are called)? If so, you are probably pulling it askew. There is a compass down at the bottom of the screen, near the zoom controls.... spin it around to align the map anyway you like, through 360 degrees.

It's the projection angle that's the issue Richard, no amount of pulling and pushing on my PC seems to correct this one

Oh, and what happened to red and blue roads