Being Ripped off

[Mike Peers]

I recieved my hugger and front mud guard from the Dutchman a couple of days ago. I had to go to the shop to buy yet another torx key as there is f**k all in my so called tool kit. Then when I looked at the destructions to fit the front mudguard I need yet another torx key, so the front guard is still in the garage until I get the chance to get to the shops again. Anyway all this is beside the point of the thread. The point being that I have bought a couple of huggers over the years from the likes of pyramid, in both plastic and carbon. I have not got an endless supply of money, but I was delighted when I saw the quality of the concepts hugger. It is top notch. I was lucky to have ordered early so got the reduced price, but I would have still ordered at the higher price. The quality and workmanship is absoloutely excellent. You really do get what you pay for.

 

[Mr K]

I'm starting to get a bit tetchy: If you think it's too expensive, don't buy it.

However, may I re-assure you that although the circa £200 price tag does seem a tad cheeky, your hugger will arrive well packed and complete with complete (Geordie) idiot-proof instructions.

After-sales, should you need it is superb and conducted at a friendly level....and damnit: Silver huggers are just the way forward..............

 

[Deleted account 211025001]

I'm starting to get a bit tetchy: If you think it's too expensive, don't buy it.

However, may I re-assure you that although the circa £200 price tag does seem a tad cheeky, your hugger will arrive well packed and complete with complete (Geordie) idiot-proof instructions.

After-sales, should you need it is superb and conducted at a friendly level....and damnit: Silver huggers are just the way forward..............

I'm with you all the way on this Chris, one of the best looking/well made/ actually works huggers I've come across
....................silver though


Andres

 

[Gonzo]

..............and damnit: Silver huggers are just the way forward..............

I was violently agreeing up until then, you just had to spoil a great argument!!

 

[Mr K]

Have you seen a red one?

........sorry Paul!!

 

[monster]

we seem to have missed the point

I know I mentioned the bloody hugger and I only used it as an example. If you look at any person that manufactures anything for BMW its always or nearly always more expensive than for any other bike be it jap or what ever. The hugger debate has gone long in the tooth but the extra money we fork out as a group is taking the piss. I am more than happy with my bike but a few people have said you need this that or the other so why is it not on the bike to start with IE oil Grille or Hugger etc coz the bike cost 2 grand more than a triumph. Everyone likes to personalize their bike and some stuff is not needed but the stuff that is needed is more expensive. Yes if you dont want it dont buy it covers this nicely, but I do want it but cant afford. As for the hugger thanks for your replies and thanks to dutchman for being honest.

 

[swebb]

Re: we seem to have missed the point

Yes if you dont want it dont buy it covers this nicely, but I do want it but cant afford.

I'm with Monster on this one... the "if you don't want it, don't buy it" argument sounds great at face value... until you consider the, "it's almost a necessity, but out the reach of many of us" argument...

It does seem from many of the posts on this forum as a whole, that many BMW owners seem to be particularly "fluid" regards cash... as such prices for ALL aftermarket stuff seems to be un-characteristically high... it feels for the rest of us, that the attitude seems to be... Aaaah, they've got the money, they'll buy it anyway.. and unfortunately because there seems to be a large number that do.... the manufacturers don't bother catering for the rest of us mere mortals.....

The hugger is only 1 example (sorry Dutch, you seem to have taken the brunt, un-intentional, i'm sure your product is great) This thread is about the bigger picture, the wider range of products...

Good on ya Monster... i'm sure many have thought/do think exactly the same.... I know i do!

 

[Schtum]

Having paid £120 for a very simple one-piece NWS carbon fibre hugger for my VFR over 5 years ago, I can't agree with the criticism of the pricing of Motorrad Concepts hugger which is in a different class altogether. It's also an almost essential piece of equipment for those of us who ride in all weathers.

However, the one which does get me is the price of light bars. They're all about £70. Now as much as I want one, there's no way I'm going to pay that for a non-essential (to my mind) piece of kit, especially since I picked up some Hellas for a fraction of that.

 

[sandbar]

Re: we seem to have missed the point

If you look at any person that manufactures anything for BMW its always or nearly always more expensive than for any other bike be it jap or what ever.

Not true!

You must compare the products from one manufacturer. You cannot make an accurate assessment if you compare quality products for BMWs from manufacturers such as Ilmberger and Motorrrad Concepts with some of the other junk that is for sale. Let me assure you there is an enormous amount of cr*p out there - particularly on flea-bay.

Your moderator will probably edit or modify this post, but I think that as the representative of one of the few manufacturers to whom your comment could apply I should have the right to defend our products and show the truth of the situation.

I am sure Dutchman can, and will, speak for himself but here are some representative Ilmberger prices.

R1100S Hugger - £129.95
R1150GS/R/RT/RS Hugger - £129.95
R1200GS Hugger - £134.85
K1200RS/GT HUgger - £129.95
Ducati 999 (2005 & 'R') - £129.38
Ducati 748/916/996/998 Hugger - £129.38
Ducati Multistrada Hugger - £124.78
R1100S Front Mudguard - £105.68
R1150R Front Mudguard - £105.68
R1200GS Front Mudguard - £136.75
Ducati 999 Front Mudguard - £131.25
Ducati Multistrada Front Mudguard - £133.25
Harley-Davidson V-Rod Front Mudguard - £149.95

All our products are priced on a similar basis. There are no premiums put on for different manufacturers.

Sandbar


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[Deleted account 220427002]

Hi there Sandbar,
Firstly don't be offended by my post.

As you may well know, advertising of the forum is only allowed if you become as sponsor of the forum.
By you placing a link to your web site on your post you have started advertising.
Even though you were posting to make a point you are still advertising a product of yours.
To be fair to the rest of the members who have sponsored the forum to advertise a product or sale items. I would ask you to think about sponsoring.

You can become an UKGSer Sponsor pledging a £10 annual (3p per day) contribution towards the running of the board.

You do so by clicking here
http://www.ukgser.com/sponsor.htm

It would seem in your case there could be many benefits to yourself by becoming a sponsor, the possibility of selling more of your products being just one of them.

http://www.ukgser.com/sponsorpop.htm

Anyway, you can choose not to sponsor if you wish, that's perfectly fine, but if you do, please do not place any further ads.

Whatever you choose to do, you will be equally welcome here.


Cheers TUNED-IN

 

[sandbar]

Hi there Sandbar,
Firstly don't be offended by my post.

Absolutely no offence taken.

I was well aware of the situation regarding advertising, which is why I did not restrict my reply to only BMW GS. I was trying to be as broad as possible in dealing with the point at issue, which is the comparison between prices for parts for BMW and, in particular, Ducati which was mentioned a couple of times.

The use of my 'address' after my name on a forum post was force of habit, but point taken. : There are a lot of forums out there that need watching!!

I have no objection to being a site sponsor and will organise it.

Sandbar
"temporarily - of no fixed abode"

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[Fanum]

but point taken.

Again sandbar

This isn't the first time my friend...glad to hear you're going to sponsor up though and I look forwards to hearing about your products when you have,

Cheers

Bill

 

[Deleted Member MM]

I recieved my hugger from Dutchman a couple of days ago. I was delighted when I saw the quality of the concepts hugger. It is top notch. I was lucky to have ordered early so got the reduced price, but I would have still ordered at the higher price. The quality and workmanship is absoloutely excellent. You really do get what you pay for.

Exactly the way I see it & the reason Georgia & I both have one fitted

 

[chippelmike]

Hugger

I probably had one of the first Sandbar huggers which I found through an ad in the BMW club Mag.
All I can say is that it fitted first time with no messing about, its kept the rear cleaner,it weighs next to nothing ( unsprung weight etc. ), and in my opinion looks the part without being overkill.
Mike

 

[sandbar]

You can become an UKGSer Sponsor pledging a £10 annual (3p per day) contribution towards the running of the board.

Done!!!

Now I look forward to my nice badge/logo.

Sandbar
www.sandbarcomposites.co.uk

 

[(RIP) Kaister]

comparing BMW,ducati and harley is pretty pointless - its the same market.

How about 1200GS against NC30 ?? (for instance )

 

[sandbar]

comparing BMW,ducati and harley is pretty pointless - its the same market.

How about 1200GS against NC30 ?? (for instance )

Good grief!!!

Ducati was the other make that was mentioned in the earlier posts - thats why!!

I think that if you tell BMW, Ducati and Harley owners that they are all the same market, I suspect that they may not agree. I should think that there are plenty of Harley owners (in particular) who might be pretty offended!

In any event I cannot provide a comparison of parts for an NC30 against a R1200GS, because we only do parts for Aprilia (RSV, Nera and Falco), BMW, Buell XB, most Ducati, Harley Davidson V-Rod, Suzuki GSXR (K3,4 & 5), and (soon) Yamaha R1(2004/5).

So if there is anything there that you fancy, I will be only too pleased to provide some price comparisons

Sandbar
www.sandbarcomposites.co.uk

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