Bike mags take on the Wankpanzer

On/off switch? do they mean start/stop? BMW have always had problems with the switchgear - out of the 6 GS's I've had, 3 have required replacement switches.
 
On/off switch? do they mean start/stop? BMW have always had problems with the switchgear - out of the 6 GS's I've had, 3 have required replacement switches.
Do they put different switches on GSs then? I have had 5 RTs over the years and never had any switch gear problems.
 
Do they put different switches on GSs then? I have had 5 RTs over the years and never had any switch gear problems.
Dunno - the1200 GS switches, normally the rocker switches would jam - the earlier 1200s suffered from water ingress.
 
Do they put different switches on GSs then? I have had 5 RTs over the years and never had any switch gear problems.
Agree - I’ve had various 1200 and 1250 GSs with no problems at all.
The only switch gear issue was on a 2010 TC RT when the cruise control switch fell apart.
 
On/off switch? do they mean start/stop? BMW have always had problems with the switchgear - out of the 6 GS's I've had, 3 have required replacement switches.

No, they mean on/off.
Read the article !!

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The 1300 has the new on/off switch located on the right bar rather than the previous central position .


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No, they mean on/off.
Read the article !!

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The 1300 has the new on/off switch located on the right bar rather than the previous central position .


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I did read the article, I bought the magazine - but can one trust a bike journo?

If the on/off switch is just one of the normal push/push types as used on the older bikes then they were prone to failure too. There were 3 issues, water ingress, sticking rocker switches and sticking push/push switches - I have had both types replaced in the past on more than one GS.

Anyone got a close up photo of the on/off switch?

it is interesting that it was raining during the test too.
 
I did read the article, I bought the magazine - but can one trust a bike journo?

If the on/off switch is just one of the normal push/push types as used on the older bikes then they were prone to failure too. There were 3 issues, water ingress, sticking rocker switches and sticking push/push switches - I have had both types replaced in the past on more than one GS.

Anyone got a close up photo of the on/off switch?

it is interesting that it was raining during the test too.

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OK - the on/off button looks just like the other cheap and cheerful push/push buttons - I can categorically tell you that these buttons are known to fail, they lose their 'feel' and often stay suck in the down position- so I am not surprised. The quality of the BMW switchgear is not great, but redesigning it will be a major task, so I guess BMW have decided that they will just put up with replacing them under warranty when they go wrong.
 
OK - the on/off button looks just like the other cheap and cheerful push/push buttons - I can categorically tell you that these buttons are known to fail, they lose their 'feel' and often stay suck in the down position- so I am not surprised. The quality of the BMW switchgear is not great, but redesigning it will be a major task, so I guess BMW have decided that they will just put up with replacing them under warranty when they go wrong.

Apparently it used to be the switch for something else on the 1250.
Strikes me as a big error, redesigning pretty much the whole bike but keeping the crappy old non-backlit switchgear.
Journo reviews already moaning how the switchgear needs to be backlit especially with the left bar being more complicated now with multiple options/selections which are difficult to find in the dark.
 
perhaps Engineer is unaware of the concept of keyless ignition where there is a separate on/off switch, independent of the start/stop switch.
Apparently it used to be the switch for something else on the 1250.
Strikes me as a big error, redesigning pretty much the whole bike but keeping the crappy old non-backlit switchgear.
Journo reviews already moaning how the switchgear needs to be backlit especially with the left bar being more complicated now with multiple options/selections which are difficult to find in the dark.

it was the heated grips switch - each press cycled between 3 options - off, toasty & burny

on my R1200RS, it was the LH switchgear that was replaced just before the warranty expired. The info mode toggle switch had become notchy.
 
On my GS it was the same trip/info switch on the LH cluster that got stuck. They wouldn't replace it under warranty then (I tried) as it was intermittent, so I used contact cleaner and elbow grease (not the sort from a tin) and it worked again for a while before the same thing happened. Never had any issues with my other bm's including my current one. On that though, the oil pressure sensor packed in at 6K miles. I'll get it looked at when next in for service.
 
perhaps Engineer is unaware of the concept of keyless ignition where there is a separate on/off switch, independent of the start/stop switch.


it was the heated grips switch - each press cycled between 3 options - off, toasty & burny

on my R1200RS, it was the LH switchgear that was replaced just before the warranty expired. The info mode toggle switch had become notchy.

mine gets sticky now and then but as it’s well out of warranty I just WD40 it and it’s good for another year or two (y)
 
perhaps Engineer is unaware of the concept of keyless ignition where there is a separate on/off switch, independent of the start/stop switch.


it was the heated grips switch - each press cycled between 3 options - off, toasty & burny

on my R1200RS, it was the LH switchgear that was replaced just before the warranty expired. The info mode toggle switch had become notchy.
On my first 2014 GS, it was the cruise control (set/reset) switch that had failed or shall I say, developed an intermittent fault.

I was on my way back out of London, (I think I was out to meet up with a friend at Bike Shed) riding up the M1 I had set cruise at 70 mph, when some 5 minutes into the journey, suddenly I've had this, completely out of the blue deceleration :yikes . Basically cruise toggle switch just decided to cancel the cruise, with me being completely unawares, proper brown underpants moment :poop:. At first I though it was me, perhaps touched the clutch, or either of the two brakes :eek. so reset it, and 30 seconds later it done it again, until eventually I was dead completely.:firemth

Bike was purchased from Maidenhead Bahnstormer as a proved used and at the time only came with years limited warranty. switchgear got replaced free of charge, but I had to pay the labour cost. :eh
 


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