Brembos now fitted to new models ?

It really is moths to a flame

I give up now and promise to be good

Actually just one more thing

If you compare the rear rack on a GS and the rear rack on an XR you will see that visually they are the same

If you touch them however you will find one is made of an alloy and one is made of a plastic

I will leave you to work out which is which and ask why that is
 
RedRick Esq. said:
It really is moths to a flame

I give up now and promise to be good

Actually just one more thing

If you compare the rear rack on a GS and the rear rack on an XR you will see that visually they are the same

If you touch them however you will find one is made of an alloy and one is made of a plastic

I will leave you to work out which is which and ask why that is
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I'm assuming the XR is plastic because mine is definitely metal...
 
RedRick Esq. said:
If you compare the rear rack on a GS and the rear rack on an XR you will see that visually they are the same

If you touch them however you will find one is made of an alloy and one is made of a plastic

I will leave you to work out which is which and ask why that is
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Which is more durable - and which, if any have broken in use?

BTW, unless I've made a mistake they not visually the same.
 

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knutk said:
We are into 9 pages now regarding a problem that has bothered a minor number of bikes.
And, not surprising, it turns into the usual rant about lowering quality.

The mantra is that the older bikes where better built.

I do agree that the old BMW's where quality bikes. But we tend to forget that they were more expensive as well.
My very first BMW bike did cost an average worker 1,5 years of wages, while now a new BMW GS costs 0,6 years of wages. BMW charged the same price for the 1250 as they did for the 1200 from the year before.

BMW cuts costs to accommodate the customers. If we where willing to pay for the 'old times' quality I feel confident that BMW would be more than happy to build them and sell them. But as many customers are reluctant to even pay the price for a descent oilfilter, I don't think this will ever happen.

That said, even with all the whining around, I find my current 1250GSA to be the best BMW I've owned up until now. And I share this experience with several of my friends.
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I truly am happy for you, have you seen my posts about my leaking calipers?
 
Stevie900 said:
I truly am happy for you, have you seen my posts about my leaking calipers?
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What the one where you haven't actually got the bike and the dealers are sorting out with new callipers that are apparently a revised part number. Talk about flapping about nothing.
 
Stevie900 said:
I truly am happy for you, have you seen my posts about my leaking calipers?
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Yes I've seen it.

But with all due respect, I suggest you start worrying when the problem is for real. Technically, since the bike is not picked up yet it's not even yours yet :D

That said, I don't think any one, including BMW, is happy about the caliper issue, even if it is not a widespread issue. (yes, I know, people in here are quite vocal about it, but when you meet real riders, not only the ones that read forums all day, you realize that most of the 1250 owners have not had a caliper problem or even heard about it).

The chances are that by the time the bike becomes yours for real, there will not be a leak issue. And I think you will love the brakes. The bite is noticeable better than the Brembos ;)
 
Stevie900 said:
I truly am happy for you, have you seen my posts about my leaking calipers?
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casbar said:
What the one where you haven't actually got the bike and the dealers are sorting out with new callipers that are apparently a revised part number. Talk about flapping about nothing.
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knutk said:
Yes I've seen it.

But with all due respect, I suggest you start worrying when the problem is for real. Technically, since the bike is not picked up yet it's not even yours yet :D

That said, I don't think any one, including BMW, is happy about the caliper issue, even if it is not a widespread issue. (yes, I know, people in here are quite vocal about it, but when you meet real riders, not only the ones that read forums all day, you realize that most of the 1250 owners have not had a caliper problem or even heard about it).

The chances are that by the time the bike becomes yours for real, there will not be a leak issue. And I think you will love the brakes. The bite is noticeable better than the Brembos ;)
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Oh good, they're turning on each other now :popcorn :JB
 
As someone who does high mileage, my beef with the Hayes Calipers is that because they are two-piece construction it means to change the brake pads you have to either remove the caliper or the wheel, both of which takes a fair bit of time and requires a torque wrench to do properly.

With the Brembo's you can change the pads at the side of the road in 3 minutes flat with just one torx driver! For that reason alone the Hayes brakes are a step backward in my book.
 
Boshman said:
As someone who does high mileage, my beef with the Hayes Calipers is that because they are two-piece construction it means to change the brake pads you have to either remove the caliper or the wheel, both of which takes a fair bit of time and requires a torque wrench to do properly.

With the Brembo's you can change the pads at the side of the road in 3 minutes flat with just one torx driver! For that reason alone the Hayes brakes are a step backward in my book.
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Now, that is a valid point... Luckily I have a torque wrench and it takes all of 2 minutes to whip them off so I'm not too bothered but the Brembo's would be much more convenient if you're on the move and don't have access to decent tools for sure...
 
Slightly tangential, but Triumph are fitting Brembo Stylema's to the new Tiger 900. Maybe a tad excessive in terms of performance :O .

RBW.
 
And, also can't slip the pads out without removing it, despite being a monobloc design...
 
Boshman said:
As someone who does high mileage, my beef with the Hayes Calipers is that because they are two-piece construction it means to change the brake pads you have to either remove the caliper or the wheel, both of which takes a fair bit of time and requires a torque wrench to do properly.

With the Brembo's you can change the pads at the side of the road in 3 minutes flat with just one torx driver! For that reason alone the Hayes brakes are a step backward in my book.
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Yes, that is a difference.
On my K-model it was the same procedure (Brembos :green gri).

However, I fail to see the problem in real life. I only check the brakes when I change tires. If i suspect that the pads by any chance will not outlast another tire I always change the pads. I find it a nuisance to have to worry about such when I ride. This worked fine for all the years the K's where in my ownership and I intend to do the same with my 1250.
 
if its REALLY keeping you up at night, you can pick up a decent set of LC brembo calipers for around £200 on ebay in good condition. Fit them and sleep better.

i personally have no issues with the Hayes calipers, i have had 2 1250gs' due to engine related issues and neither bike had brake problems
 
knutk said:
Yes I've seen it.

But with all due respect, I suggest you start worrying when the problem is for real. Technically, since the bike is not picked up yet it's not even yours yet :D

That said, I don't think any one, including BMW, is happy about the caliper issue, even if it is not a widespread issue. (yes, I know, people in here are quite vocal about it, but when you meet real riders, not only the ones that read forums all day, you realize that most of the 1250 owners have not had a caliper problem or even heard about it).

The chances are that by the time the bike becomes yours for real, there will not be a leak issue. And I think you will love the brakes. The bite is noticeable better than the Brembos ;)
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Check again, you have the wrong guy. I have my bike and it’s on its second set of calipers and they are leaking and the brake fluid has tarnished my wheel.
 
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