So you can’t answer my question either. No surprise there.The question relates to travelling abroad. If you are that troubled by the concept, a letter from your mum (witnessed by a priest, family GP or a serving police officer) will suffice.
So you can’t answer my question either. No surprise there.The question relates to travelling abroad. If you are that troubled by the concept, a letter from your mum (witnessed by a priest, family GP or a serving police officer) will suffice.
Oh, do fuck off ya fanny.....Bit late really, been going since the late 70s. Approximately four or five times a year.
I do notice that you have not answered my question though.
So if the vV5 isn’t proof of ownership why the need to carry it? It serves no purpose at all.
Your answer makes most sense. It’s to do with who to fine in case of speeding etc. I’m not and never have disputed their rights to ask for whatever documents they want. Although some seem to think I have. I don’t know why.you seem to be conflating regulations in the UK and abroad
in the UK we do not need to carry documents as everything is on the PNC so we only need the photocard to establish identity. The V5 largely exists to establish tax and fine liability in the UK.
in foreign, they can make whatever rules they want and I am not their spokesperson
About what I expected. Still don’t know the answer I see. If you cant help then fuck off.Oh, do fuck off ya fanny.....
Bless you, you're doing your best with the you've got.....About what I expected. Still don’t know the answer I see. If you cant help then fuck off.
So you can’t answer my question either. No surprise there.
Your answer makes most sense. It’s to do with who to fine in case of speeding etc. I’m not and never have disputed their rights to ask for whatever documents they want. Although some seem to think I have. I don’t know why.
I can’t remember what we had to take back in the 70s as regards documents. I seem to remember driving licences but seeing as they didn’t have pictures on them they weren’t much use for identification. Log book, maybe a green card that was neither card or green. Oh, I do remember painting the van headlights yellow and putting black tape on them for France.
In France and Germany, its not proof of ownership. Its the ID document for the vehicle.It isn’t, but it’s all we have as regards proof of ownership. There isn’t anything else. If someone steals your vehicle, changes the V5 to their name how does one prove they aren’t the owner?
I can’t remember what we had to take back in the 70s as regards documents.
There was a page at the back of the passport where you declared how much cash you were taking out of the country.You probably had to fill in a currency / customs declaration form back in the 70’s But that was something different.
No I go four or five times a year. I just wondered about the why of carrying the V5 if it doesn’t prove anything. Seems a bit pointless. As Wessie says though it’s probably for fines etc.The rules were broadly the same then, as they are now. The intervening fifty odd years * have not altered things too much. That said, the so called ‘Green cards’ have of course vanished for use in Europe, replaced by a simple statement of conformity on your certificate of insurance **, though they did make a reappearance post-Brexit, much to the confusion and some considerable annoyance of many here.
You probably had to fill in a currency / customs declaration form back in the 70’s. But that was something different.
* Was that really the last time you went ‘abroad’ by vehicle?
** Which is probably digital or a printable PDF now.
I’ve been hearing about more bikers getting harassed in Germany. I can’t imagine you were speeding much with Jayne on back - so why did they stop you??Having got stopped the other day and got asked to produce my documents. As we were moving on we had them on the bike with us.
What happens if you are out for a ride and have left them back at the hotel ?
This is in Germany.
Generally I don't carry them as never think to put them in the panniers.
Cheers Doc

No idea as my waistcoat wasn't on display which sometimes can cause interest from the police. And I was going through a village slowly. I did see them parked up.I’ve been hearing about more bikers getting harassed in Germany. I can’t imagine you were speeding much with Jayne on back - so why did they stop you??
I’ve never been bothered in Germany, but not been for a while……….and then again, I was on a German bike!!![]()