Carrying Documents

[Aidan1150]

I really don't know how some of you guys manage to sleep at night what with all the fussing and worrying about stupid shite. You are the living embodiment of the international opinion that the Brits are a nation of anally retentive, uptight feckers. You need to relax and give a few less fucks. Seriously.

 

[wessie]

I really don't know how some of you guys manage to sleep at night

14% ABV

Saint-Chinian, Domaine Raynier 2024

 

[glenn2926]

Who the feck are you, the Headmaster? Or just the fanny you come across as?

How does fuck off grab you.? I asked a question you being a fuckwit either couldn’t or wouldn’t answer it. It has been answered by those a couple more brain cells. Just because I find you either useless or offensive and told you to fuck off doesn’t mean you are completely useless, just useless in this instance.

 

[Wapping]

It isn’t, but it’s all we have as regards proof of ownership. There isn’t anything else. If someone steals your vehicle, changes the V5 to their name how does one prove they aren’t the owner?

Start a petition (they are very popular, not least on these pages) demanding that all V5 documents be withdrawn and replaced by, well….. um….. er……something else.

 

[Wapping]

What happens if you are out for a ride and have left them back at the hotel ?
This is in Germany.

Ist is ve who ask ze vwestions, Englisher schwine pig. For you, zer trip ist over, ja!

 

[Doc]

Ist is ve who ask ze vwestions, Englisher schwine pig. For you, zer trip ist over, ja!

Correct but I didn't expect it to be four pages of people getting there knickers in a twist over it.

 

[Wapping]

Correct but I didn't expect it to be four pages of people getting there knickers in a twist over it.

Where, have YOU decided to keep YOUR documents?

Are you driven to dementia that a V5 does not record ownership?

Are you worried that someone might steal your vehicle and do bad things?

How’s the weather?

Where to today?

 

[Doc]

Where, have YOU decided to keep YOUR documents?

Are you driven to dementia that a V5 does not record ownership?

Are you worried that someone might steal your vehicle and do bad things?

How’s the weather?

Where to today?

Top one - panniers
2nd 3rd - not bothered
4th weather is good
5th No advice given on where to go so I'm getting pissed.

 

[TIJ650]

……….still think a decent toolkit and puncture repair kit is king when abroad. First thing I pack

 

[TIJ650]

………then waterproofs

 

[Wapping]

5th No advice given on where to go so I'm getting pissed.

Post in thread 'Doc does Germany with our lass'
https://www.ukgser.com/community/threads/doc-does-germany-with-our-lass.484609/post-5876791

 

[Arsey]

FFS.
Soon it won’t just be a hotel with #bikermatesecure parking but the keyboard worriers will be needing a safe in the bedroom to store docs.

 

[gerarddwatts]

The thought of poor old Doc trying to stuff a tool kit, waterproofs AND dox into an A5 plastic envelope in his waistcoat armour pocket.....

 

[TIJ650]

FFS.
Soon it won’t just be a hotel with #bikermatesecure parking but the keyboard worriers will be needing a safe in the bedroom to store docs.

Isn’t that already a prerequisite?!

 

[ogri-nic]

the question relates to abroad, but i do not believe that the law in UK has changed… it is still a UK requirement in law to carry your licence cert of insurance and mot, however due to the ability of officers to check on handheld devices, the issuing of HORT1A (producers) has mainly stopped. These were a defence in law in that you were allowed time to produce and then they would not prosecute. However the offence occurred when asked on the street!
the lack of the forms use is also the main reason for the closure of most police stations as 99% of the footfall was producing ducuments. one nick i worked in in Liverpool in the 6 months prior to its closure had had no one to the desk in 6months+

at the end of the day, if you go to a different country, follow their rules or take their punishment, do not expect the same treatment as if you were in woke softy softy UK

 

[TIJ650]

Don’t remember where I bought this little fucker, but it’s very handy for excursions

 

[er-minio]

To add a little of useless factoids to a useless thread... keep in mind there is a quintessential difference in how paperwork and entitlement is managed between countries on a legal basis within the European zone (UK geographically included).

I discovered this by chance on this very pages last year when my UK license expired and I panicked.
I was told that the license (document) expired, but my entitlement to drive did not. So I could still drive.

This is the polar opposite in country like Italy, where I grew up, where all that counts is the document.
If your friggin' paper/plastic document expires (I think it lapses after 10 years) you cannot drive. Even if you are still in you 30ies, completely able. It's the actual piece of paper that dictates your entitlement. If you get stopped you'd get done for driving without actually having obtained a license ever.
Slightly different story if lost. But leads to a lot of extra (mostly useless) work and having to go around to get things printed/stamped/etc.

Back when I was living there, at some point I ran into this problem. I stopped driving for a week or so, then sorted the renewal, then they fucked up delivery of the license.
I had to obtain a certificate from the police, a letter, that I had to keep with me at all times when driving + had to get the fucking letter renewed every 20 days or so.
It lasted a couple of months.

My "understanding" is that UK legal basis works the other way round. That honestly simplifies things a lot, and I prefer it a lot. Until you are buying a house or proving ownership of a vehicle, where sometimes the lack of proper "bureaucratic" paper trail can create some tension.

 

[wessie]

I discovered this by chance on this very pages last year when my UK license expired and I panicked.
I was told that the license (document) expired, but my entitlement to drive did not.

and the good thing about that is if you lose the photocard, you can log onto the gov.uk website and get a code to share with police, car hire etc to prove your entitlements. Of course, without the photocard they might want you to provide some other photo ID or letter from your mum to verify you are said person.

 

[er-minio]

and the good thing about that is if you lose the photocard, you can log onto the gov.uk website and get a code to share with police, car hire etc to prove your entitlements.

100% agree.
Stuff like this has been science fiction back home until very recently.

 

[Doc]

Doc does documents.