CASTROL SAF-XO

Hello
Thought I'd better join in the fun - seeing as many of my emails from work to private individuals are now being posted on forums as general info :cool

I see I'm on here already ... ( a private email to a bloke in France if I remember correctly ! ) :type

http://www.ukgser.com/forums/showthread.php?t=91251 :thumb

Chip oil ... yes, let me know how you get on with that one ..:rolleyes:

Anyway - the 3 year rule of thumb is as I said in the email - a rule of thumb - virtually all oils are a carefully balanced mixture of additives and base oils ( detergents, dispersant, anti-foam, antioxidant, friction modifiers, Viscosity improvers, anti wear additives - to name a few ) to provide the right protection, performance and specification to enable to oil to function properly as it should - some of the additives used don't readily mix with each other, so they have to be skillfully blended so that they do. Over time, depending on the storage conditions, some of these additives can drop out of suspension, so the carefully blended package can loose some of it's performance ability. This isn't guaranteed to happen, and as I said in my email - the oil can be fine for longer, but after this time, some of the additives may have separated out so the quality and performance ability can't be guaranteed - the only way to be sure would be to have the oil analysed, which would probably cost more than new oil !

The other reason for the shelf life guide is that oil formulations can change, so a product that has been sat around on the shelf for a while, although it may have the same name, the latest version may meet different specifications that the older one doesn't.

I would suggest that with any oil that is older than a couple of years - a sensible thing is to turn the bottle gently a couple of times - then have a look - the oil should be clean and clear and bright - any streakyness, or sediment could be settled out additive - if the oil is cloudy or opaque - could be water in it. At the end of the day it's a judgment call regarding whether you want to risk using oil that you can't guarantee is 100%, or just buy some fresh oil. Ideally, you should buy only what you need to use - that way you will always be using fresh oil.

As suggested, SAF-XO is a high performance product and not a fast mover - hence CCO having some older stock - chances are, it would have been okay to use - but sensible to return for replacement if unsure - they do provide an excellent service and also stock the Act>Evo GP 20W-50 which is the current BMW recommended oil for the Boxer engines, as well as the normal bike specific oils - they stock the SAF-XJ full synthetic for the final drives too

here's their website if you've not found it ;

https://ssl11.lon.gb.securedata.net/classicoils.co.uk/merchantmanager/index.php?cPath=24

Simon and Guy at Opie are great blokes too - they are extremely knowledgable about oils and also carry plenty of stock.

http://www.opieoils.co.uk/

Don't forget you can check up on oil recommendations on the Castrol website too - or drop me an email if you have specific questions via the Castrol website

www.castrol.com/uk

Hope that helps ?

Cheers

Andy Griffin
Castrol Technical

Great to get accurate information direct from the horse's mouth - I never really expected to find out the real facts; but have been very impressed by Castrol and CCO and hopefully this will dispell some of the myths often perpetuated about oil.

Thanks Andy,

Will Haylock (AKA Engineer).
 
Hi Castrolman what do u do with the old oil? Next u will have a best before date on it. I will take some off your hands JJH

Personally I have an old 20L container in the garage, I dump my old oil and stuff into that, when it's full I take it down the road to the local council recycling centre where they have a large container for used oil - Don't pour it down the drain or bury it in the garden.

Maybe there's a local garage or something that could take it if you're not near a tip - some burn used oil in their heaters.

EDIT - Sorry - just clicked ( I read that as what do we advise you do with old oil :blast )... what do WE do with old oil ? ... we don't have old oil as it's blended to meet sales requirements :D

A good dealer will manage and rotate his stocks so he always has fresh oil on the shelves - I suppose it's inevitable that some will be sat for a while - it's down to the dealer then to decide what he does with it I suppose.


Cheers

Andy
 
Castrol saf -xo New Name Syntrax longlife

About Castrol Syntrax Longlife 75W-90 (Formerly SAF-XO 75w-90)
Castrol Syntrax Longlife 75W-90 (Formerly SAF-XO 75w-90) is a fully synthetic multigrade final drive lubricant with excellent low temperature performance, load carrying ability and resistance to foaming at high temperatures and sustained high speeds. It also provides exceptional high temperature stability and oxidation resistance.

Castrol Syntrax Longlife 75W-90 (Formerly SAF-XO 75w-90) is Castrol's prime recommendation for a full synthetic lubricant for final drives in heavy commercial
vehicles. :beerjug:
 
About Castrol Syntrax Longlife 75W-90 (Formerly SAF-XO 75w-90)
Castrol Syntrax Longlife 75W-90 (Formerly SAF-XO 75w-90) is a fully synthetic multigrade final drive lubricant with excellent low temperature performance, load carrying ability and resistance to foaming at high temperatures and sustained high speeds. It also provides exceptional high temperature stability and oxidation resistance.

Castrol Syntrax Longlife 75W-90 (Formerly SAF-XO 75w-90) is Castrol's prime recommendation for a full synthetic lubricant for final drives in heavy commercial
vehicles. :beerjug:

My local Autozone seem to have started listening to my pleas - they've started stocking Syntrax. :JB

I just bought two 500ml bottles - R89.99 each. Quite a difference from the BMW price of R400 for the same quantity.
I might guess that other manufacturers took notice of this stuff and started speccing it for their vehicles - which would have ended it's tenure of 'exclusive to BMW' and opened the door for non-manufacturer parts dealers to start stocking it.

Enough for five final-drive fluid changes. Oh how I love peace of mind. :D
 
Just received 1L Castrol Syntrax Longlife 75W-90 (Formerly SAF-XO 75w-90) from Opie oils for £18.49 including VAT and delivery - 2 days.
ZAR 312.78 :)
 


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