Como or Garda?

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She who must be obeyed would like to visit one of the above lakes when we go to the Dolomites in a few weeks, not to stay, just to ride around with a few stops at places of interest.
Is there a 'must do' scenic route around part of one of them which I should aim for?
 
I honestly would not recommend either of them for a riding trip as they are both very busy and not particularly scenic - just my opinion. I can however recommend Val di Scalve which is utterly stunning and not far from there, just head for Schilpario.

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I havent been there on a bike but went to Como on a business trip in February 2020 just before Covid took hold as we got the whole hotel at knock down prices and needed somwhere to acomodate 70 people. From what I understand the area is overly pretentious, over priced and worth avoiding in general.....
 
Avoid. It's like being on a track. Loads of traffic and boring.
I ended up going in to the hills around them to avoid the traffic. Some nice views of the lakes from up there.
 
If you are looking at accomodation at Lake Garda just be aware that there is a big conference therfe from 13th - 18th September
 
Both lakes are not great in terms of traffic. I like the northern end of Lake Garda but I see it as a place to settle in a base and then use the ferries to get about rather than the roads. Last time we went we did a fly drive to Verona and the car was mostly used for the airport transfer.
The little harbour area in Malcesine is very nice and a trip on the cable car to Monte Baldo provides great views.

Lake Garda is also more accessible from the Dolomites, compared to Como, as the lesser known Brenta Dolomites are north of Riva del Garda. The smaller Lake Molveno is a quieter destination and the roads quieter.

If you decide to go to Como, the road from Landeck to Como through the River Inn valley, via Zernez & St Moritz is one of my favourites in all of Europe. Stay at the northern end of the lake.
 
Agree on using ferries...last time we went to Garda we used them extensively...I guess the roads are better off season but v busy when we were there. Some lovely towns on the ferry routes...get a rover type thing.
 
Both are very touristy, so expect lots of traffic and people.

It all depend on what other things you want to do or visit, if your spending time in Milan then Como is a short train ride which means you could go on foot and enjoy the vino.
Same can be said of Verona and Garda

Its tempting to ride round these lakes but everyone has the same idea and ends up as a crawl and too many distractions on the road to really look up and enjoy any views.

One thing to note if your thinking of camping, for some reason google maps has camping icons on many B&Bs around these lakes which had me confused when i turned up and couldn't see where i could possible pitch my tent lol
Its common in Italy as some have a space for an RV

I also went North to Obersee that has borders with Austria, Switzerland and Germany
 
Out of the two, Garda because at least it has the Strada Della Forra, and you can ride out the west side up to Passo San Rocco and Lago Di Idro, have lunch at the much more reasonably priced Restaurant Al Mistica
near the equally beautiful lake, then ride back :)

Pics are the Della Forra, it was also used in the opening car chase scene for James Bond, Quantum of Solace.



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Me and Mrs FatAl are very fond of Lake Garda. We have visited several times over the years, on package holidays and travelling independently on motorcycle. Our favourite place to stay is in Malcesine at Casa Barca. They have secure off road parking.
 
One thing I would be worried about at this hot time of year is that permafrost on top of mountains is melting at a quicker rate, resulting in even avalanches, quite different from snow ones. :unsure:

Melting permafrost destabilizes mountain slopes by removing ice that once held rocks together, increasing the likelihood of rock avalanches and landslides.

 
We will be in Peshiera Del Garda in around two weeks. We stayed there last year and liked it that much we’re going again. Last time we visited Venice, Verona and Milan using trains. This time we are intending to use the ferries to visit more places around the lake. We did go to Sirmione last time which was very busy but a nice little place to spend half a day. Our visit was using our motorhome we stayed at Camping Butterfly. We staying at the same place again.
It’s just about half a day travel from our son’s place near Chamonix.
 
I like both lakes but agree that the traffic is really bad. Riva del Garda was a nice town 30 odd years ago but is drowning in tourists these days.
 
Cheers all, I think that's enough to put her off! :DD That pretty route Fluff suggests is worth a look, and, as said, Garda is more on route to where we're basing ourselves.
 


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