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Two decades ago, I used to write HTML in notepad & maintained 2 web sites for quite a few years. So I'm feeling a bit dumb asking this (please be gentle).

I've recently set up a hosted web site with Fast2Host with the idea of setting up my own web site to include general pages of interest, a blog and potentially a forum.
But I couldn't see any appropriate software listed within F2H that would easily create standard web pages. I ended up installing WordPress which seems ok but limited on template styles.

Is there anything that can provide standard templates with menu's for free?
Am I better off creating them off-line then uploading to the site? :nenau
 
WordPress should be able to do what you want. You just need to persist with it for a while to find out how it works.

Might be worth loading a decent theme that comes with a default template. This should give you a better springboard towards a working site rather than starting with a bare-bones WordPress install. Might mean that you have to pay for the theme though.

One of the numerous good things about WordPress is that it's very likely that any question you need the answer to is only a swift Google search away.

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Two decades ago, I used to write HTML in notepad & maintained 2 web sites for quite a few years. So I'm feeling a bit dumb asking this (please be gentle).

I've recently set up a hosted web site with Fast2Host with the idea of setting up my own web site to include general pages of interest, a blog and potentially a forum.
But I couldn't see any appropriate software listed within F2H that would easily create standard web pages. I ended up installing WordPress which seems ok but limited on template styles.

Have another look.....

"Standard web pages" pretty much no longer exist...HTML is dead (although the language lives on....you may as well ditch your old expensive copies of Dreamweaver, 'cos frankly, you should never need to use that old clunky stuff again) and CSS, Java and CMS took over....even that has been superceded.

F2H have all the software you need to do any sort of website you want.......I use WP pretty much always now, and add on forums/shopping cart software (all available either as a WP plugin or as an integrated app from the F2H CP)

I've had a good noggin tonight, but please feel free to PM me tomorrow and I can talk you through various options.........but before then, go to google and look up 'Free wordpress themes"....then look up 'Woo Themes" and 'Elegant design WP themes".

From your WP admin panel, take a look at the themes.......you can try as many as you want, free, and there are tens of thousands.....use their search facility and you'll probably find one that is a good basis.

After that, you need to get to grips with CSS* to change the template files, and you can do pretty much ANYTHING with them from there :)

Also do a search for 'Fully responsive Wordpress themes"........'responsive' is just a farty arty way of describing a theme that automatically adjusts to tablet, mobile or desktop screens so all versions look good.....it takes days if not weeks of programming out of the cycle and if you apply the settings properly, a site you build with a responsive template will look the shitnitz on any device from am Android handheld to a Kindle, on any sized screen and any tablet and even on Macs :augie

WP themes are the building blocks, but it's up to you and your use of CSS in manipulating those themes to make a site.....Trust me though, it's FAR FAR easier to make a shit hot looking site with all the whizzy bits you could want (if you really want them) these days, and in a fraction of the time that it used to take to whack it all up in HTML5.....I used to use HTML as well, but I wouldn't want to go back to it....these days, I can spend my web design time being creative and doing the arty stuff rather than slogging through thousands of lines of HTML.

Even an off-the-shelf theme with an integrated forum plugin should do the job though :nenau




PM me tomorrow if you like, I'll whack you across my number and I'll talk you through what I can :thumb2




*CSS (Cascading style sheets) will be VERY familiar to you if you used HTML........It's just another way of using the language....far simpler but also far more powerful if that makes sense.
 
that's a great answer, thank you Fanum :thumb2
I agree, I'll never return to hand-carving HTML either, although I still write quite a bit of javascript or vbscript at work!
Great tip about the "fully responsive" themes, I'm sure all the new gadgets make developing web sites a compatibility nightmare.

Going to spend New Years Day going through some of the WP options again using your comments too. May be better to discuss things once I've had another look. Happy New Year! :)
 
that's a great answer, thank you Fanum :thumb2
I agree, I'll never return to hand-carving HTML either, although I still write quite a bit of javascript or vbscript at work!
Great tip about the "fully responsive" themes, I'm sure all the new gadgets make developing web sites a compatibility nightmare.

Going to spend New Years Day going through some of the WP options again using your comments too. May be better to discuss things once I've had another look. Happy New Year! :)

Likewise...and have replied to your PM :)

EDIT....have a look at the 'DIVI' theme by 'elegant themes' HERE

I'm using it on a virtual server here and i have to say, I'm extremely impressed with it.....I suspect I'm going to convert a couple of client's sites to it soon, once I've played with it enough to know how to make it do what I want :)

<iframe width="640" height="360" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/QRVcsQm0I0c" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
 
even the wp 2014 theme is good IMHO love Wordpress it is just so easy to find answers to questions. Favourite plugins
SEO Yoast
Advanced Responsive Video

Maybe we should have a WP tips and tricks thread...
Don't forget to change your permalinks as soon as you start to SEO friendly ones.

I updated balooz.com to 2014 theme and the only thing that did not work straight out of the can were the videos (they were not responsive)
 
Richie - a tips and tricks thread would be a great idea.

I've just started out on the Wordpress path - literally in the last few days. Got myself a domain and hosting so I'm just starting to dig into the creative bit.

Saw your recommendation for plugins. So far, I've just installed Wordfence as it was recommended.

What other 'basic' plugins would anyone recommend as core stuff to include on any website built on the Wordpress platform?
 
Richie - a tips and tricks thread would be a great idea.

I've just started out on the Wordpress path - literally in the last few days. Got myself a domain and hosting so I'm just starting to dig into the creative bit.

Saw your recommendation for plugins. So far, I've just installed Wordfence as it was recommended.

What other 'basic' plugins would anyone recommend as core stuff to include on any website built on the Wordpress platform?

Nothing 'up front', at least to start off with.

You NEED something like Akismet, but don't necessarily get dragged into that particular plugin just because it's the best known and loudest shouting plugin.

You would probably benefit a great deal from some of the editing/WYSIWYG/advanced theme editors, but only once you understand the basics of CSS, or you'll be running with artificial legs before you understand how feet relate to ankles, IYSWIM.

After the 'under the bonnet' invisible stuff (and there are several I use for my control panel to make it more useful and to see more detail and hence have more control) then I honestly think it's the same as a newb GS rider who asks what he should bolt on to his GS to make it better a week before he even picks it up......wants it all, but doesn't know why or what it will actually do for him.

Play with WP and the thousands of themes, and once you know how the basic machine works and your ideas get to be limited by the limits of CSS and you want to do something that involves JAVA or a more sophisticated slideshow structure, THEN, and only then, look at the myriad of addons and plugins , but only to achieve a set defined goal, not because the box says they are shiny and farkly......Going the 'farkle' route just because you saw the hype and want to do bling will just make your site look shallow, flash and frankly, naff.


Anyone these days can make a website that is whizzy and sparkly and loud, but the ones that actually succeed, the ones that bring people back and back for genuine reasons rather than just cheapo links and multiple-blogs are the ones WITH CONTENT.

CONTENT IS KING.
 
I Agree that Content is King, all be it since the google changes of late apparently it is not going to be quite that simple any more. However I don't necessarily agree with Bill and needing to know about CSS so that you can modify the theme. IMHO there are so many themes to choose from why bother changing the one that you find and like. On balooz.com I use the bog standard 2014 that comes with the most recent version of WP and I think it looks fab. Also I have yet to come across a site myself that uses the same theme. Obviously there will be thousands of sites using the same theme, but I am not using them.
As for plugins again I am with Bill, no point installing plugins just because they are recommended by others, only use a plugin once you find a reason for needing one. For example the theme "2014" is totally responsive, but when you embed a video the video does not look right on a mobile device, so I found "advanced responsive video embedder" uploaded it and solved my problem. There are a few plugins that I use on all of my WP sites,
All in one favicon
Black Studio TinyMCE Widget
Disable Comments
Exclude Pages from Navigation
Twitter Facebook Social Share
WordPress SEO

I won't explain what they do the names are fairly clear but if you find the need for any of these things try them out. I delete Askimet on all my sites, probably as I never found out how it works properly, to avoid spam I simply limit comments to 14 days from post date and use disable comments for media links etc. I get a little bit of spam but no big deal.
Enjoy
 


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