Datatool Alarm Problems/Removal

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My Datatool (fitted when I bought the bike new) is starting to play up. Just twice over the past three years it has not disarmed straight away. But yesterday and today this problem has returned with a vengeance. I've tried both remotes, both buttons, and it makes no difference - seems to be a problem disarming it.

Tried pressing the remote from close by, far away, left side, right side, close to the tank but it makes no difference. Just when I've given up, removed gloves, helmet earplugs, another go makes it work. Then I can re-arm it, disarm it, re-arm it and so on with no problem, until I next switch the bike off and start again.

Any suggestions?

To be honest I'd rather remove it completely than have a nagging doubt in my mind that it'll leave me stranded somewhere. Is removal an easy task? Do I need to get a Datatool man in?
 
In my expierience Datatool are a very good company.I had difficulties with an alarm I had of theirs some years ago and even tho the unit was out of warranty,by almost 2 years when it manifested a problem which similar units had had they replaced it and helped towards having it refitted and gave a 6month warranty on it.
I would take the time to have a chat with them before the unit is removed.:thumb
 
karnevil said:
In my expierience Datatool are a very good company.I had difficulties with an alarm I had of theirs some years ago and even tho the unit was out of warranty,by almost 2 years when it manifested a problem which similar units had had they replaced it and helped towards having it refitted and gave a 6month warranty on it.
I would take the time to have a chat with them before the unit is removed.:thumb
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Thanks. I've sent them an e-mail via their website, and another message to the nearest approved dealer. If they can tell me what the problem is and convince me that they can repair it, that'll do. I'm off on a trip abroad soon, and don't want to be left stranded up a mountain.
 
I know what ya mean Robin.When I first had mine fitted to my FZR it went wrong in Paris.I was parked underneath one of the legs of the Eiffel tower.The breakdown people insisted that I could not be there as there was no parking allowed at that location!
 
An update:

Another thread on here and help form other members, told me how to "bridge" it. Quite scary how easy it is to do. I have done this now and it's working. I have no real experience of stuff like this, but if I had to disable the sam ekind of alarm again in the same way, I reckon I could do it in ten minutes. I tdoes make we wonder baout the worht of the alarm in the first place.

However, I had asked the mobile Datatool engineer to call and disconnect it today. He was supposed to come round this morning, but phoned to say he'd been called elsewhere. However, he has agreed to come tomorrow (Sunday) and remove the alarm, leaving the bike as if it had never been fitted. I hope.

Why do I want it removed? Well, it's not working, and it's just something plugged into the bike that has no benefit, and the risk of going wrong. I know it shouldn't go wrong, but given that the alarm has some kind of fault, there's always the chance.

I don't know whether it's the can-bus system that makes it more complicated. I was expecting that where it had been splice dinto the original wiring, a wire would be cut and the gap bridged by one wire going into the alarm box, and another coming out. In fact, it appears that the alarm wires have been soldered onto the original wires, which haven't themselves been cut. I suspect that there will be at least one or two wires (it looks like six or seven spliced in altogether) where the original wiring has been cut. Otherwise, removing the alarm would be as simple as cutting all the wires. :nenau
 
Robin, sorry to hear of the problems with the datatool. Is it a system 3?
If so can you pm me the “bridge” trick. Heading to Germany next week for a wee trip and would like to have that info with me, just in case.
 
G.C. said:
Robin, sorry to hear of the problems with the datatool. Is it a system 3?
If so can you pm me the “bridge” trick. Heading to Germany next week for a wee trip and would like to have that info with me, just in case.
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I'd also like to know that one, as I have a (so far faultless in 5 years) Datatool 3 as well.

However....I know Robin's far to sensible to publish such information out in the
open ;)

Ahem, Robin me old fruit, if you happen to get five minutes ;)

:kissy2
B
 
Where were you when this happens, strong radio interference blocks the plipper from being heard by the datatool unit. So Hospitals, TV transmitters etc are your enemy.

IMO junk the alarm they are a waste of time and more hassle than they are worth.
 
wadham said:
Where were you when this happens, strong radio interference blocks the plipper from being heard by the datatool unit. So Hospitals, TV transmitters etc are your enemy.

IMO junk the alarm they are a waste of time and more hassle than they are worth.
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+1:thumb2
 
wadham said:
Where were you when this happens, strong radio interference blocks the plipper from being heard by the datatool unit. So Hospitals, TV transmitters etc are your enemy.

IMO junk the alarm they are a waste of time and more hassle than they are worth.
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In my garqage where it's always worked before. Then at a friends house, then in Maidstone. I'm confident it's a fault with the alarm unit rather than interference or a duff remote.
 
Liquid in the motion sensor had leaked onto receiver, and everywhere else in the alarm. Now removed - at a guess, 20 mins work for the man. I had it all stripped ready, to be fair.

Now alarm free. Another worry off my shoulders. I'm going to go and fill up with petrol just for the sake of it - I'll be able to coem out of the shop, get on my bike, and ride away!

Will phone insurers on Monday and see what difference (if any) it makes).
 
I now have the same fault with mine - Waiting for the AA man :(

Stuck at work (luckilly, I will see if I can dig out a soldering iron from the workshop and have a go - might be a damn sight quicker!)
 
DollyRocket said:
I now have the same fault with mine - Waiting for the AA man :(

Stuck at work (luckilly, I will see if I can dig out a soldering iron from the workshop and have a go - might be a damn sight quicker!)
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forget the soldering iron, get a t10 torx and 2 bits of wire..5.mins max to bypass the alarm.:eek:
 
yl100twin said:
forget the soldering iron, get a t10 torx and 2 bits of wire..5.mins max to bypass the alarm.:eek:
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Just take it out.

If it takes you 5 mins to bypass, do you beleive its a deterrent to a theif :(

Get rid
 
this happened to me with my datatool s3 at the halfway 'lunch' point on my first big rideout. Managed to find a shop and replace the batteries and my thumb was going numb pressing the button to disarm the alarm. I then gave in and phoned the missus to get her to drive out with the spare fob. I tried it again 5mins later, when the missus was on her way, and it worked fine. Turned out it was a problem with the circuit board and needed replacing.

My opinion, alarms are another weak electric point that can go wrong whilst offering little to no protection. Good chain and padlock gets my vote.
 
Ripped out - took 30 mins and that is with proper soldering of the wire ends back together with heat shrink.

It now looks forlorn on the garage floor like a spider with the legs slowly pulled from it. Gaffa tape over the siren is an effective silencer whilst the internal alarm batteries run down.
 
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