Dawn to Dusk

Better pack my snorkel

Hope the ground drains well at Walter's Arena, it was wetter than an otters pocket in the south east last night, heres hoping Wales fared better.
 
I'm number 73 in the 12 hour veteran class

Good luck Rog, keep your eye out for two friends of mine, they are doing the 24hr race as individuals in clubman class.
Louis is number 460
Wombat is number 459

Have fun!
 
Work uncertainty has meant I've not been able to get organised enough to enter this even but I now find myself being available this weekend. Anyone know what the deal would be with coming to take some photos? If I was to come on my HP2, would I be able to get to some of the interesting parts of the course?
 
Work uncertainty has meant I've not been able to get organised enough to enter this even but I now find myself being available this weekend. Anyone know what the deal would be with coming to take some photos? If I was to come on my HP2, would I be able to get to some of the interesting parts of the course?

Why not email the organisers? Would be good to see some pictures of the event by taken by a GSer :thumb
 
Anyone know what the deal would be with coming to take some photos? If I was to come on my HP2, would I be able to get to some of the interesting parts of the course?

Last year you could get round some areas on foot fairly easily, not sure about on a bike though.
 
Thanks chaps - just posted a question on their Facebook page and Craig has responded saying it's fine so I'll probably take the HP and see what I can manage :thumb2
 
I will look out for them

Good luck Rog, keep your eye out for two friends of mine, they are doing the 24hr race as individuals in clubman class.
Louis is number 460
Wombat is number 459

Have fun!

Gosh the 24hr race, They are going to be tired puppys at the end, think the most I have ever managed was 20 hours and that was in my pick up truck with cruise , comfy seats and good sounds. I might stop by the chemist on the way to wales and pick up for Louis and Wombat one of those special packs of Neurofen that are on special this week:D

Thanks will have fun, well for the first 3 hours:rolleyes:
 
Dawn2 Dusk

Hi Crapaud.

Big cheer as you came past on the 1100 from the entire crowd! You looked smooth approaching the big assent to the pits.

Looked very tough for the big bikes,especially the twins (except Patsy and the desert rose guys who were throwing it around like a motocrosser)

Well done to all the Tosssers who took part (even those who were on KTMs)

looked like a really tough event - you doing it again????

Colts
 
What an event!

Left on Friday morning into the worst Bank Holiday traffic. Normally takes 3 to 4 hours to get to Swansea from Devon but this time took us 8 hours.:eek:

Got there just before it got dark on Friday night and managed to find level ground to park the Hymer. Plenty of room in camper to bring loads of gear so we almost looked like a proper racing team.:). Two things I wasn't prepared for were firstly, how damn windy it was and secondly how hard the ground was. Then I realised it was being held in the middle of a wind turbine farm in an old slate quarry so should have told me something.:blast

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Saturday morning we started to set everything up. James Sherlock had fitted a brand new set of TKC80s to my spare rims so I fitted those before scrutineering. Whilst changing the wheels, I noticed the brake pads were a bit thin so hoped I'd pass the bike check OK otherwise I'd have to fit some new ones. Bike check consisted of lady asking me "How many riders in your team?", "Erh, just me" I replied, following which she stuck a no. "1" sticker on the front and that was the sum total of the scrutineering.:)

The sighting lap consisted of watching a video in the marquee. At this point I was starting to feel very ill and wishing I hadn't entered. Nick Plumb had told me it was all on fire roads and would be easy for big bikes. He lied! The video showed single track through woods where I was worried I might hold up faster riders.

I had removed my rear numberplate and replaced it with a large Tosser sticker and www.ukgser.com sticker.
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My wife said some random old git thought this Tosser sticker was very rude and should be removed.:rob My bike parked up in the paddock area seemed to cause much amusement to everyone who walked past, with some just smiling, some laughing and a few coming over to talk to me and tell me I was mad. I told them I knew that already.:D

The official start was supposed to be 7.00pm with the 24 hour nutters starting first followed by the Big Bike singles then the twins of which there were only eight. The seven others were 4 F800GSs, 2 KTM 990s and an old Transalp so I definitely had the biggest fattest heaviest bike there by a big margin.:)

Here's me and Slimbo waiting nervously just before the start.
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It was a Le Mans style start with the bikes lined up and then you run to them and go. In all the other classes everyone sprinted to their bikes and raced away but in the big twins we all seemed to amble slowly back as we needed to save our energy for riding the damn things. The KTM 990 was first away and I was in second:eek:. There were hundreds of spectators cheering as we negotiated the little twists and turns before the climbs.
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I was praying I wouldn't drop it in front of everyone here so concentrated hard and tried to look like I knew what I was doing.:) As noted above, I got a huge cheer :clap when I made it up the off camber sweeping climb and away from the crowd.:D I'd now been racing for all of about 2 minutes and I was knackered already.:eek: Once out of view of the crowd, I stupidly thought I could relax and rest a bit so sat down in the seat at just the wrong time.:blast A big dip caught me out and I lost drive and toppled over.:( One of the F800GS riders had said he would ride the first lap with me so he waited until I got going again. I didn't do too bad until I got to a muddy boggy bit and my tyres were obviously over inflated as they just spun up on a steep climb and I slid back down again. Damn that 1100 is extremely heavy when you have to continually pick it up in mud or it is stuck on top of you. One of the fast 24hr riders caught up with me at the end of the single track section and was not happy so he rode into me and over my left foot.:(

Apparently the fast guys managed a lap in around 15 mins. I think I spent that long picking my bike up each time towards the end of the lap which I completed in one hour and thirty minutes. The end of the lap back into the pits included the climbs at the start and I again got huge cheers :clap as I doubt anyone expected me to come around at all.

Now it was time for the fuel stop. I was the only person there for who a fuel stop meant taking fuel OUT of my tank.:) I had too much in and as a lap was only 7.6 miles I didn't need much at all and could save a bit of weight. I also reduced the tyre pressures a lot to try to get some grip. My fancy new projector spot lamps had all decided to stop working.:( I asked my new friend Mike Hammer on the F800GS if he knew anything about electrics and it turned out he was an electrical engineer.:) We had to remove my monster 41lt tank to get to the electrics and Mike found the problem with the relays. Without his help, I would have had no idea as I know nothing when it comes to electrics. Eventually, we couldn't put it off any longer and we had to conclude our pitstop and get back on track.

Leaving the pits, I was wary of the dip where I had dropped in initially on the first lap so I gave it a lot more welly this time hoping to clear it completely like all the competent riders did.:) Unfortunately, due to my total lack of skill, I mis-timed it and instead of clearing the dip I just dropped into it harder and faster front end first ie completely wrong. The bars bounced back hard and at first I honestly thought I had broken both my wrists. Even now, my left wrist is still swollen with very restricted movement and still hurts like hell. I carried on and felt more confident as it had stopped raining and by riding a bit faster it was actually a bit easier to ride the course. Of course I had a mental block on the single track section again and stupidly tried to move off line to let a faster rider through. Disaster! I cashed heavily into the fence on the left and smashed a fence post with my left thigh. This now hurt enough to take the pain away from my wrists.:) The wire fence was twisted around my lights etc and under tension with the weight of an 1100 on it so it took a long time to get the bike extracted and get going again. Once again Mike was a star and helped me get going:thumb2

About two thirds of the way around and we had both dropped our bikes a few times so were getting very tired. I had a major problem with mud/clay building up under the stupid front mudguard. I've never notived before now that the GS has a road type front mudguard under the beak. This was getting completely blocked and stopping the front wheel from turning which is a bit of a problem to say the least. I told Mike to continue on without me as I was holding him up too much and I would rest a bit longer. I managed to roll down an escape road to try to clear the wheel and have another attempt at the greasy slippery climb. I eventually made it and struggled on towards the end of the lap.

I couldn't understand why I was dropping the bike so much. OK so I know I'm a crap rider but even I shouldn't keep dropping it in a straight line for no obvious reason. It was only when I was going very slowly that I realised that the front wheel was jammed 100% solid and was not turning at all. The front of the bike was acting like a snow plough and without the gyroscopic event of a turning front wheel the bike simply wanted to fall over every few yards. Bugger! One of the very helpful travelling marshalls managed to drag the bike out of harms way to the side of the course so I would be safer from the nutters flying past. By now it was gone 1.00am on Sunday morning so past half way. I realised that I needed to remove the front mudguard to have any hope of moving again but the clay was jammed between the front tyre making the task very difficult. After lots of cursing and swearing it was obvious that the tools I had under the seat were not sufficient to remove the mudguard and I didn't want to damage the bike (any more than it was already). So Plan B was to try to scrape out all the mud from around the wheel to get it going again. Luckily, I had a tiny head torch with me so I could see what I was doing.

By about 3.00am I had finally got it so that the bike would move again.:) I got my gear back on and rode away. At this time of night there weren't too many spectators apart from the marshalls and officials but I got an even bigger clap and cheer from them when I made it up the hill to the pits for the third time.:)

Once I sank into my chair in the pits, it was obvious that I wasn't going to be able to do any more laps and both me and the bike were knackered. I fell asleep and woke up after the race had finished.:)

I don't think I have ever been so physically exhausted in my life. It felt like I had carried that bike all around the course.

Yes, I think I will do it again next year but with better preparation for both me and the bike.

What an event!:D

The bike got a bit muddy:
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But eventually cleaned up:
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PS and while I was away riding my bike, it seemed like it all kicked off on this forum and I missed all the dummy spitting etc. I really must stay in more.:D
 
Crapaud!! You are awesome! How you managed to do even a lap is beyond me! I only did 9 on my 640! I remember helping you pick up the bike at one point, you said to me something like "I've had it! whats the point if I can't keep upright on the easy bits, i'll never do the hard bits". I was expecting you to leave the bike and was about to offer you a lift to the pits when you said "i'll just finish this lap!" I couldn't believe it! you are the definition of a trooper and I take my hat off to you! See you next year, and I hope a few of the other Big Bike Rallies! Maybe we can persuade Colts to do it too!
 
I admire all riders who take proper big bikes around courses that would make enduro riders think twice.

Hats off to you and don't ever give up! I might even change my puddle jumper for a big pig and wrestle one around a course just to see if I could do it :D
 
Well done guys ,i was the marshall at the top of the slippery climb hauling everyone up ,remember the white beemer stuck just before the top step ,had to push you back as the fast boys were hurtling along ,eventually got you up and then diverted the route around the fire road .got very tiring after an hour of lifting all the heavy bikes up
 
Thanks for your kind words guys, thats really made my day. Huge thanks to all the people who helped me pick the bike up, unfortunately too numerous to mention them all!:D

All the marshalls and helpers were magnificent and made a big difference to the whole atmosphere of the event being so positive and encouraging.

I so nearly made that steep climb and only got stuck about one bike length from the top where it narrowed. You marshalls were doing a superb job of dragging and pushing many bikes up there. I felt better when I turned around and saw lots of little KTM 250 etc had only managed to get half as far up as I did so that gave me a boost.

The bruises are going down today but the memories will last forever:).
 
Looks like an awesome event and well done to all that had a go. Might have missed it but roughly how many laps does your average big bike rider complete in the 10 hours?
 
Well done to all the lads on twins another bunch stating it's a big bike friendly event and talking BS:rolleyes: glad i went to greece instead now :P
 
Hi Guys,

Burt here, I was riding a 990R. Thanks for the help on the steep hill, I guess TKC's were not the ideal tyre ;-)

It was fantastic riding off road in the dark and I will be doing it again very soon - brilliant.

Tough event - if you want to give feedback on the Big Bike Rally Challenge and the events this year the forum is open at http://www.bigbikerallychallenge.co.uk

Sid - well done on the big beemer mate.

cheers

Burt
 
Me No 73 entered the 12 hour marathon class (veteran) ktm 450

Me No 73 entered the 12 hour marathon class (veteran) ktm 450


We drove up on Saturday afternoon me and wifey she was excited as you can imagine to be spending her bank holiday weekend at an Enduro in Wales:( We stopped on the way to brew up just outside Monmouth in a lay-by where we soon joined by another motor home towing a enduro bike. They were taking their son to compete in his first dawn to dusk at the age of 16. I enquired if Walters arena was located in a particular beautiful part of the Rhonda hoping for some positive news to tell wifey. "Got to be joking mate looks like fecking Mars but with rain that comes in sideward’s" ummm I thought best not update wifey yet on our destination for the weekend.
As it turns out apart from the parking area the view is pretty impressive and the weather was not too bad at all the odd shower and glimpses of Sunshine throughout the weekend.
I unloaded my bike and went last minute panic buying in the paddock, got me a moosse / mousse / mouse you know what i mean for the front tire then we went walking part of the Big Bike rally Route. Looked good in the dry bits but tough under the trees where the sun never reaches.
Got back in time to see a blue and white GS with a TOSSER sticker on the rear which made me smile, head off to the start of the night race. As a spectator on sat night I stood on the embankment looking down to a man made track with twists and turns (bit like when they race cars in wembley stadium) good for a spectator but the track you see here tells you nothing about what awaits in the woods:eek

I watched the big single cylinders go and I don’t know if they were all pros but they looked pretty quick and in control apart from a lovely xt660 ( my favourite bike) which may be needed the suspension beefing up.

Next up was the twin cylinder group No 760 looked impressive a GS of some sort they all seem the same to me:pullface

In the Arena area we the spectators could see was a man made mound which a light bike can jump off and sail through the air quite spectacularly, not a twin gs though we were able to see the law of gravity in its full glorious effect when a these loons launched their pride and joys of this mound, thankfully they all landed without incident so at this point all was good 1 corner and 1 hump completed leaving 9 hours 59 minutes to go.

I watched all the bikes leave the arena area to great cheers and wished them well for the night and went back to have my dinner Tagetellie carbonarra good for the energy levels pasta:bounce1

We parked up right at the back of the campsite working on a the pecking order of life theory, superstars near the pit entrance me near the dustbins, but it gave me a great view of the bikes exiting the forest and heading back towards the start area. As night fell it was possible to judge the quality of the entrants headlights and accessorized lighting systems no need to say they varied from 1 candle power to 10,000 candle power (lux for you younger members) it really was laughable to see an Enduro bike screaming out a pitch dark forest with a headlight not bright enough to walk a dog, some of these guys are truly amazing they were riding faster at night than I could ride in the day. They seemed to be borrowing the light thrown forward from better equipped bikes on their way to glory or hospital :cool

At 20:30 in the marquee the sighting lap for the 12 hour race was shown on a big screen, the video ran for about 40 mins 15 miles and gave the impression that the route was a piece of piss really I went off to bed calmed. Looking back you know how when you to take a photo of a valley/ mountain /gradient but the photo never seems to reflect the scale / steepness etc, well the same is true for video.

About 22.00 I dropped my 40 litres of fuel ( only needed half of that) down with a guy at the front of the pits who was working all day Sunday and was happy to help, so i did not have to ride all the way back to my trailer at the back of the campsite each time to fill up.

I went bed with wifey swearing "how the feck am i meant to sleep with those bastards screaming past my window every thirty seconds, mad feckers don't they know its dark out there, what is it with you men you're all fecking weird one way or another" ........ "Night darling" She was fast a sleep in 15 minutes and reported in the morning it was one of her best night’s sleep of the year:nenau

My theory for a good night’s sleep was limited alcohol ( 1pint of cider) this did not work, in hindsight when packing my essential tools for the weekend I should of included a bottle of wine and necked it about 21:00. I could not get to sleep, tried counting sheep tried counting motorbikes going pass the window tried listening out for GS's .................... by 2:00am there was a long gap between GS's. I fell asleep I reckon about 4:00 am couldn’t stop my brain thinking about the morning.

Alarm goes 5:40 am, organiser wants us on the grid at 6:15 for a 7:00 am start I can only presume they want us there so early so we can stand around freezing are arses off for 45 mins just to add to the pleasure. I reach the start at 6.45am and i'm still early things get going about 7:10 expert solo are called to the front (not me then) they go in the first wave, non expert solo who think they have a chance of winning are called to the front (not me then) they go in the second wave then non expert solo dreamer class are called to the front (me then:bounce1) we go followed by expert 2 man team,expert 3 man team etc non expert 2 man etc.

I was told to ride the 12 hours on the hare and tortoise theory just keep plugging away lap after lap with as few breaks as possible and you will do all right, the tortoise theory worked well for me as the bikes were flying by me, the trouble is you don’t know if the rider going twice your speed is just riding an hour then swapping or riding twelve hours, either way some of the guys were flying.

I did the first lap bypassing the 3 extreme sections this makes for a easier but longer lap. The ground varied from slippy to untrustworthy and my recent mousse investment did not give me much confidence in front end grip. Normally i ride with 12 psi in the front but with the mousse it felt harder I do not know what pressure a maxis mousse is meant to replicate?

Lap two I went for all three extreme sections
No: 1 easy 3 foot drop off from a log stack down an embankment
No: 2 steep descent down embankment though tight trees on to fire road
No: 2 part two: VERY steep descent down embankment though tight treeswith ditch dug at the bottom prior to crossing fire road
No: 3 sharp left turn no opportunity for run up on to steep climb up gulley with boulders the size of basket ball’s in

Resulting in

No:1 made
No:2 stalled engine on descent , locked back brake gained more & more speed prior to going over handlebars and hitting head hard on fire road (broken googles, broken visor, broken spirit)
No:3 looked at then 1st refusal, bike said no more.

I stopped at No2: for ten minutes while the dizziness subsided the marshals’ were really good and checked i was not really broken before going off to rescue someone else. I watched a couple more guys come down the No: 2 before I left (same outcome) :)

I looked at the clock 8:40 only 10 hours forty mins to go and i have cracked this. Next lap round I took on No2 again but made my own route down across hillside travesing the embankment to reduce the steepness of it soon i had my own path and that became the main route for the nuttier fraternity who tried it.

No: 3 I waited at the bottom until i was sure there none of the experts were around and then gave it a go. I got up it after a fashion lots of scrabbling but made it to the top only to find a ditch full of big boulders that had to be crossed then sharp right turn out.

Rest of the morning I plodded along not really going fast enough to feel i was achieving anything other than just killing time, I made all the climbs (except 1) all day which was quite rewarding especially when you have to ride over people to achieve it :)

Don't know what happened about 12:00 o’clock the route was really drying out and I started to get going at a pace I was happy with, I did 2 laps then came in for a chese roll and aspirin ( cracking headache, did not drink enough water) then rejoined and felt flat again for the next couple of hours.

About 3:00 o clock my front brake started to fail and by four o clock it had gone completly Iwhen I came off earlier the rose joint on the brake lever had loosened and air had got in, I came in and attempted to fix it to no avail wifey persuaded me to go see Martin of Tourque Racing who was working for Deasert Rose that weekend and ask his advice, sheers martin he fixed it in two minutes abd i was on my way again plodded on to 18:00 not really getting going, came in a at 6.00 had chat with wife said i will ride one more lap then wait prior to the finish, wait for the chequred flag to go out at 19;00 and roll over the line.

Went back out and found speed again bizare really must be a blood suger level thing so came round to the finish, saw about 50 bikes waiting for the time to expire, many would of been the 24 hour racers so quite deseverdly were waiting, but cause i had found a bit of go in me I went and did the last lap and finished about 19;40 the marshalls clpped us as we completed our last lap and so did the crowd.

Went to prize giving in the marquee to find out where i came but only the top three were mentioned. in each class, the big bike rally boys were cheered by us all but had mostly gone home so not many around to collect their well deserved trophys.

Still dont know where I finished , but have blistered hands , very sore arse loke its been hit with a cricket bat 1000 times, got in the bath last night at home and couldn't get out without help:confused: also struggling to walk up and down stairs at any speed. I think all this is down to the constant pounding and not my crash.

To sum it up i think the wifes right

"you men you're all fecking weird one way or another"

Next year ????



Gone on then put me down:blast
 
Me No 73 entered the 12 hour marathon class (veteran) ktm 450
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To sum it up i think the wifes right

"you men you're all fecking weird one way or another"

Next year ????



Gone on then put me down:blast


Quality write-up (as always)! :bow Really made me smile :D

(Martin at Torque Racing is the man, isn't he?)
 


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