Daytime MOT
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It's often best to ask your MoT tester as they can still be variable.
You need a horn and some may accept a bulb type although that applies to bikes older than yours, you'll need a reflector but no speedo for MoT although you should have one when it's used on the road
Double check the above
Edit: Needs road legal tyres so check for the 'E' mark.
You need a horn and some may accept a bulb type although that applies to bikes older than yours, you'll need a reflector but no speedo for MoT although you should have one when it's used on the road
Double check the above
Edit: Needs road legal tyres so check for the 'E' mark.
ghiribizzo
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Yep. Friend used to have a Guzzi classic race V7Sport on the road. No lights bar a stop lamp. Tape it all up so it's just a black 'thing' and MoT's ok.
Put back into my workshop 20 feet from mot bay; then untape stop lamp; ride home later.
Put back into my workshop 20 feet from mot bay; then untape stop lamp; ride home later.
Horn has to be capable of sounding a continuous beep after 1976 manufacture date, so a battery one is needed.
That's your lot
That's your lot
lights
I had a daytime mot on an old ducati bevel. Needed a horn a reflector and a brake light.( the examiner reckoned that the horn wouldn't be heard over the sound of the conti's anyway ) The examiner wrote for daytime use only on the mot certificate. If you use it on the road afterwards and the lights/indicators are still fitted then they must all work, even if they are covered
Of course. Having an mot certificate did not make it road legal however, as over a certain cc and date limit I'm sure working lights and indicators were obligatory, if they were an original fitment, even during daytime. In poor visibility i.e heavy rain etc you could be done ( Construction and use ) by a traffic copper if in his opinion you should be displaying lights.
I imagine you would also be obliged to tell your insurance company as it would be classed as a modification from standard.
I think..........
I had a daytime mot on an old ducati bevel. Needed a horn a reflector and a brake light.( the examiner reckoned that the horn wouldn't be heard over the sound of the conti's anyway ) The examiner wrote for daytime use only on the mot certificate. If you use it on the road afterwards and the lights/indicators are still fitted then they must all work, even if they are covered
Of course. Having an mot certificate did not make it road legal however, as over a certain cc and date limit I'm sure working lights and indicators were obligatory, if they were an original fitment, even during daytime. In poor visibility i.e heavy rain etc you could be done ( Construction and use ) by a traffic copper if in his opinion you should be displaying lights.
I imagine you would also be obliged to tell your insurance company as it would be classed as a modification from standard.
I think..........
Horn has to be capable of sounding a continuous beep after 1976 manufacture date, so a battery one is needed.
That's your lot
nope - horn fed off a lighting coil gives a continuous bleat...enuff to pass an MOT
you'll need a stop lamp and a red rear reflector - again fed from a redundant lighting coil if possible
Reflectors:-
Stop lamps:-
So if the Scorpa has no lights, it looks like it doesn't need either of these.
Stop lamps:-
So if the Scorpa has no lights, it looks like it doesn't need either of these.
As Tim said, check with your tester. They all seem to interpret the rules differently, and you wouldn't want to upset them now, would you? 
Where I take mine asked for a working brake light on my '04 Beta, no front or tail light, just a brake light. I have all the bits required to make it work, in a box, which I took with me.
Mark
Where I take mine asked for a working brake light on my '04 Beta, no front or tail light, just a brake light. I have all the bits required to make it work, in a box, which I took with me.
Mark
For the 4RT my 'trials riding MOT tester' said the following
Dremel of the 'Not For Highway Use' from the trials tyres
Rear Red Reflector
Speedo (has to be fitted, but not part of MOT)
Continuous Horn - battery one from a kiddies bicycle is fine
Number Plate - full size and reflective (but can be loosely draped over the rear mudguards wih zip ties)
Other than that all the normal stuff - bearings/steering/shocks/forks/bent wheels
No lights of any sort were required for a daytime MOT
Dremel of the 'Not For Highway Use' from the trials tyres
Rear Red Reflector
Speedo (has to be fitted, but not part of MOT)
Continuous Horn - battery one from a kiddies bicycle is fine
Number Plate - full size and reflective (but can be loosely draped over the rear mudguards wih zip ties
)Other than that all the normal stuff - bearings/steering/shocks/forks/bent wheels
No lights of any sort were required for a daytime MOT
Pushbike electronic speedo is accepted by my tester, £12 from Halfords..
Just remember to put new batteries [2 mini cells AG6] before he starts test
Just remember to put new batteries [2 mini cells AG6] before he starts test
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Pushbike electronic speedo is accepted by my tester, £12 from Halfords..
Just remember to put new batteries [2 mini cells AG6] before he starts test
Shouldn't make any difference, as JB said a working speedo isn't a requirement of any mot.
Broken speedo cable is a fail....
therefore when my tester spins wheels [ checking bearings spokes etc,] he checks speedo is working.....
I'm not arguing with him
Broken speedo cable is a fail....
therefore when my tester spins wheels [ checking bearings spokes etc,] he checks speedo is working.....
I'm not arguing with him
I think this is why it's worth asking your tester before you take it. On my bikes where the speedo's not working or missing I stick a GPS on the bars just in case.
I think this is why it's worth asking your tester before you take it. On my bikes where the speedo's not working or missing I stick a GPS on the bars just in case.
Exactly
I use my Tester for all of our Vehicles, Trike, Bikes, Motohome [4.6 tonne] and cars..
Used the same garage for 20 years, very fair...
Also no favours, if it fails it fails, he also knows I don't like advisories and I would prefer a fail to stop me "putting" off fixing it...
How can he fail it on something that isn't part of the test?Broken speedo cable is a fail....
therefore when my tester spins wheels [ checking bearings spokes etc,] he checks speedo is working.....
I'm not arguing with him
How can they interpret the rules differently... if something is needed for a test then it must be there and working... if something isn't needed, then surely it isn't needed.
To be 'road legal' a bike has to have a speedo (or something to be able to detect speed by the rider)
But this isn't tesed by the MOT tester as to it's function
Weird but true
As for the other highlighted items in my post they are also necessary for the bike to be road legal, but do form part of the MOT examination
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