DCT problem?
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Sounds like a typical high tech nightmare for the road.
Much prefer the simple life.
Sounds like a typical high tech nightmare for the road.
Much prefer the simple life.
In an emergency it is re-assuring to have the ability to disconnect the drive to the rear wheel, a simple manual clutch does exactly that - how do you the same on a Honda AT with DCT?
Yeah but that stops the engine too - I just want to disconnect the drive - might immediately want the power back again.
Bit excessive to recover one bike you would think Due to the nature of the fault and the bike they would have done that differently (bit more suttle)
What such "emergency" would you want to completely disconnect the drive then reapply ? You are trying to "engineer" a problem that doesn't exist. How many automatic vehicles are on the road today
In an emergency situation I can solely focus on braking and steering knowing that not only is the drive disconnectedthe box is quickly shifting down at the same time with no input necessary from the rider and the 'slipper' clutch is ensuring no rear wheel lock up . THEN when I need to immediately apply the power you'll never guess what.... I am in exactly the right gear to give strong INSTANT drive rather floundering with a clutch lever pulled in and the gearbox in 2 gears higher than I need. Less work from the rider and much safer .....
DCT is great , but it isn't for everyone , you should try it
Oh no, wait how silly of me its you we are talking about isn't it ? 
What such "emergency" would you want to completely disconnect the drive then reapply ? You are trying to "engineer" a problem that doesn't exist. How many automatic vehicles are on the road today
In an emergency situation I can solely focus on braking and steering knowing that the box is shifting down at the same time with no input necessary from the rider and the 'slipper' clutch is ensuring no rear wheel lock up . THEN when I need to immediately apply the power you'll never guess what.... I am in exactly the right gear to give strong INSTANT drive rather floundering with a clutch lever pulled in and the gearbox in 2 gears higher than I need. Less work from the rider and much safer .....
DCT is great , but it isn't for everyone
Well the other day I was backing the 1200 TC into an 130MPH left hander making a nifty undertake on a Ducatti Pannini and the bike started to drift wider than I'd planned.
I did not need to disconnect the drive totally but because I had a clutch I could continue to dibbley dabberly with my feet, still give it large on the throttle while one finger applying a smidgen of front brake to keep the line and use the clutch to provide an extra control over the power which approached total disconnect when the bike had reached 90 degrees to the apex and I was able to then dump all the power spinning up and covering the Pannini in rubber.
I like DCT but with my quadplexicle control skills I cannot afford to take the risk of not being in total control
OK you definitely got me there, but to be fair you are a riding God and I can assure you that even though I have been riding since I was 16 I , most definitely, am not
Right - just to give some balance and show that I am not really anti Honda - had a good ride out today with a mate of mine who has a new AT.
The AT performed well, did not break down, the switch gear did not stick and the front mudguard did not fall off
We even went through a flooded road without the AT playing up (but then it is not the DCT version).
To be honest it was nearly as good as my Tiger - just a bit heavier and slower
The AT performed well, did not break down, the switch gear did not stick and the front mudguard did not fall off
We even went through a flooded road without the AT playing up (but then it is not the DCT version
).To be honest it was nearly as good as my Tiger - just a bit heavier and slower
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Very nice Tiger , I do like black bikes
Right - just to give some balance and show that I am not really anti Honda - had a good ride out today with a mate of mine who has a new AT.
The AT performed well, did not break down, the switch gear did not stick and the front mudguard did not fall off
We even went through a flooded road without the AT playing up (but then it is not the DCT version
To be honest it was nearly as good as my Tiger - just a bit heavier and slower
Very nice Tiger , I do like black bikes
I've just read a theory that the incident might have been caused by a mechanical, not electrical or rider, failure.
Low oil pressure will allow the clutches to release, and with the throttle open revs will then rise, which increases oil pressure, engaging one of the clutches again.
The question remains as to why there was a drop in oil pressure. The bike had just been in for a service, was something reinstalled incorrectly? The bike was running at low speed/revs in a built up area which wouldn't help.
No doubt we'll find out for sure after at least half a dozen other theories have been put forward
Low oil pressure will allow the clutches to release, and with the throttle open revs will then rise, which increases oil pressure, engaging one of the clutches again.
The question remains as to why there was a drop in oil pressure. The bike had just been in for a service, was something reinstalled incorrectly? The bike was running at low speed/revs in a built up area which wouldn't help.
No doubt we'll find out for sure after at least half a dozen other theories have been put forward
WOW your slipping engineer 8 posts before your on the band wagon !!
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I see the thread on the AT forum is getting a bit more interesting http://www.africatwinforum.com/forum/113-honda-crf1000l-africa-twin-general-discussion-forum/4617-warning-dct-riders-do-not-ride-if-you-have-sticky-left-switchgear-6.html
2 more people have reported strange experiences. One dude apparently touched the throttle with the slightest of touches and his DCT bike took off like a scalded cat, rear-ending a Triumph.....on a big IAM rideout
2 more people have reported strange experiences. One dude apparently touched the throttle with the slightest of touches and his DCT bike took off like a scalded cat, rear-ending a Triumph.....on a big IAM rideout
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Very easy to forget and "blip" the throttle ??
Definitely some internet hysteria in there and a few of them clearly think this is some brand new tech that Honda have just released on an unsuspecting public.
However the AT does have a new version of the DCT , maybe there is a problem there?
Some of the posts are funnier than the UKGSer investigation team
2 more people have reported strange experiences. One dude apparently touched the throttle with the slightest of touches and his DCT bike took off like a scalded cat, rear-ending a Triumph.....on a big IAM rideout
Very easy to forget and "blip" the throttle ??
Definitely some internet hysteria in there and a few of them clearly think this is some brand new tech that Honda have just released on an unsuspecting public.
However the AT does have a new version of the DCT , maybe there is a problem there?
Some of the posts are funnier than the UKGSer investigation team
Some of the posts are funnier than the UKGSer investigation team
Yep - it makes interesting reading. Had to laugh at this one
Sounds like this DCT thing might have a few issues, along with dodgy switch gear and poor heated grips - it would make sense to wait until Honda have finished developing properly before buying one - by the time next year's model comes along hopefully they will have fixed all the problems 
Last Sat I was out in the Lake District UK for a ride out with 17 other IAM bikers very cold sleet and snow we stopped for a brew. We got back onto our bikes and set off and like you doing approx 5mph I stopped to get into formation sat behind a Triumph Explorer, we started to go and with the slightest of pressure on the throttle the DCT shot forward from between my legs leaving me there standing like John Wayne and the bike crashes into the back of the Triumph taking out the rider and Bike!
Honestly Ive seriously just wet myself reading this its such twaddle its made me go out and measure the back of my bike the rear of the Africa twin is just shy of 42 inches from the floor to the top of the rear rack with the bike on flat ground under its own weight, the rear grab handles are 18" wide so for the above to have happened the guy would have to have had an inside leg of 42" plus with an 18" inch gap under his man business between thigh to thigh according to the interwebb you'd have to be 7 foot 9 to have a 42"inside leg LOL
Honestly Ive seriously just wet myself reading this its such twaddle its made me go out and measure the back of my bike the rear of the Africa twin is just shy of 42 inches from the floor to the top of the rear rack with the bike on flat ground under its own weight, the rear grab handles are 18" wide so for the above to have happened the guy would have to have had an inside leg of 42" plus with an 18" inch gap under his man business between thigh to thigh according to the interwebb you'd have to be 7 foot 9 to have a 42"inside leg LOL
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