Deleting routes

[Wapping]

How big is a really big route file ? Are y’all worrying unnecessarily?

I’m not worried about it.

I simply have no desire to keep old routes at all, once the jaunt is over. On the one chance that I might need to salvage one on a trip, I see no need to be confronted by 20 or more old routes and then hunt about find the one I want. As with the ‘p’ in PC, these are ‘personal’ devices.

It seems I am not alone.

 

[Wapping]

Works fine on Android. Usb c to usb a connector on the android phone. Innards of the XT visible. I use CX file manager on Android.

Help please.

I have a Samsung S10 phone, onto which I have successfully installed CX File Explorer. I can details of all of what I take to be the phone’s files and those on its SD card.

I have connected my XT to the phone, via a mini-USB to USB-C lead.

The XT flashes up that it has detected a USB connection and enters ‘File transfer mode’

The XT’s screen then shows a picture / drawing of a gold coloured XT connected to a gold coloured home pc. It also has a line of words which read: Garmin.com/express

That is as far as it gets. 20 minutes of waiting, no change.

As far as I can see, the phone never ‘sees’ the XT.

From vague memory, using my Mac, the gold coloured ‘picture’ goes to silver when a two-way connection is established?

I have tried it with a second cable, with still no result. With that cable, the XT didn’t even recognise that there was a USB connection, it simply saw tge phone as an external power source. I guess it’s not a data capable cable?

What am I missing? What haven’t I done? What have I not done?

Thanks.

Richard

 

[Mzokk]

Help please.

I have a Samsung S10 phone, onto which I have successfully installed CX File Explorer. I can details of all of what I take to be the phone’s files and those on its SD card.

I have connected my XT to the phone, via a mini-USB to USB-C lead.

The XT flashes up that it has detected a USB connection and enters ‘File transfer mode’

The XT’s screen then shows a picture / drawing of a gold coloured XT connected to a gold coloured home pc. It also has a line of words which read: Garmin.com/express

That is as far as it gets. 20 minutes of waiting, no change.

As far as I can see, the phone never ‘sees’ the XT.

From vague memory, using my Mac, the gold coloured ‘picture’ goes to silver when a two-way connection is established?

I have tried it with a second cable, with still no result. With that cable, the XT didn’t even recognise that there was a USB connection, it simply saw tge phone as an external power source. I guess it’s not a data capable cable?

What am I missing? What haven’t I done? What have I not done?

Thanks.

Richard

Hi Richard I had a look at this last night and it appears that I have sent you on a wild goose chase for which I humbly apologise. I last had a look at this in January and thought that I had connected all my devices in this way. The XT standard settings only sees the phone as a charging device. It looks like its Auto MTP setting only lets devices see it in MTB mode and it won't automatically switch to USB mass storage mode as advertised or as the older units did in the screen shots linked in this thread.

Using MRA routeplanner with old Garmin GPS devices.

Using MRA routeplanner without Garmin Drive Older Garmin GPS devices can’t use Garmin Drive to transfer routes to the unit. For those with Old units and an Android phone the GPX files can be transferred as follows. (Tested on a Zumo 340 390 and BMW Nav 4). So that you can have a compact on the...

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So it looks like the only options to clear data from the XT unit are connection to a PC
or the slightly more Nuclear option of clearing the data from the unit using the clear all user data option on the hidden menu.

Again apologises for misleading.

 

[Wapping]

Thank you for the clarification. It was worth a try.

I have two XT devices, so I could use the nuclear option and then send the favourites across again from the un-nuked device, I guess. It is though a shame that Garmin do not trust us enough to delete our own old and unwanted routes, but allows us to delete our own favourites.

 

[Mzokk]

Garmins design choices and ecosystem implementation for the XT are strange at best.

 

[Mzokk]

Well well! I tried and failed to connect the XT to either of my old Android Auto phones, a MotoG7 cast off from my wife and my old MotoG8 which run Android10 and Android11 respectively for the purposes of managing files on the unit which you can do with the older Garmin units. Today I connected my XT to a brand new Motorola Edge 40 Neo phone that my wife got me for my birthday......in hope rather than expectation! The new phone runs the latest Android14. Initially if did not look promising then suddenly this screen appeared.



Having subsequently timed it the screen appears 1 minute after the XT goes into charge mode on the new phone.



Looking at the USB status on the phone shows what it is doing.

You can navigate to the relevant files and delete them



and access the files on the memory card.



Dodgy musical taste

The files on the XT can be manipulated using plain old Files by Google. This is the Version number.



I checked the old phones and they are running the same version of Google Files but would not read the XT file system via MTP. I assume that some sort of change in the Android OS since version 11 has allowed this functionality. The new phone is running Android 14.

 

[rjsmith26]

For me with my XT - my main and so far only reason to delete routes (and tracks) is basically to keep the user interface tidy, so its quick and easy to load/activate the route or track I am likely to need the following day etc. For this I just go into trip planner or tracks and in the first screen hit the spanner and then tick all the items I want to delete. (Sure we all already know this but but thought i'd share just in case people did not know). This keeps the list short and tidy (especially if I want to stop and restart a route/trip whilst on the move so I don't have to scroll through previous items).

I have probably not fully understood the issue, but guess the bigger issue is routes/tracks that are deleted but still consuming space on the device? Hope the above is useful - if not please ignore.

 

[Mzokk]

I think the issue was keeping the device "tidy" while away on tour as deleting routes from the device does not actually delete them this happens automatically after a period of time. The XT is easy to tidy up if you use a PC, but this is not handy to carry on tour and if you can do this using your phone its more convenient.