diy servicing a 2010 GSA ??

andyclift said:
One important point if you do your own servicing is that without those BMW Motorrad stamps in the service book, rightly or wrongly, you have buggered the resale value. Probably by more than the difference between the three services needed in 18,000 miles and the cost of the bits to do it yourself.
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Thats funny, my 5 year old 1200 cost me £3300 in depreciation over 5 years, mostly serviced by myself with 40k on the odometer, recently taken in part-ex by a BMW dealer against a 1200GSA.

The price of parts can't have been more than £40 per service, which I did more regularly than the dealers schedule. The most expensive bit was my GS911 diagnostic tool (group-buy, cheers Slowdown.)

I'd like to think if I can maintain a Type 42 destroyer driven by Rolls-Royce marine gas turbines, do a top overhaul on a V16 twin-turbo Paxman generator set or strip and rebuild a hydraulic capstan then I can set up some valve clearances and change the oil on an air-cooled boxer twin.:rolleyes:
 
ninjabika said:
hi all

as the title says, is the 2010 bike diy mechanic friendly i.e valve clearences and the like, or is it something that has to go to the dealer to be done


martin
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Every thing else -Yes
Valve clearance check - Yes
Valve adjustment -NO!!!:thumb Special tools reqd
 
JJH said:
every main dealer should have a Steptoe.
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Ones enough :D


DIY maintenance should not affect your warranty as long as you fit genuine service items and approved oils. It's probably cheaper buying genuine parts from your BMW dealer than from the likes of Motobins and Motorworks anyway.

Fill in a service sheet (on the CD) and keep your receipts.

I found this doing a search for service sheets http://www.motorcycleinfo.co.uk/res...nts/R1200GS_Service_Maintenance_Schedules.pdf

Somebody has gone to a lot of trouble http://www.motorcycleinfo.co.uk/index.cfm?fa=contentGeneric.obxaszqugbllbuna&pageId=264137
 
hi all

thanks for the reply's i think i'll get the 600 miler done at the dealers then that gives me time to look into what's needed to diy,

i am more than competent to do my own servicing having done 29 years as an engineer, in many different fields all hands on.

i have always serviced my own bikes and never had a problem and as someone else pointed out as long as you buy genuine parts and stick to the schedule then you shouldn't have a problem, even if you did all the normal stuff yourself i.e oil and filters and just sent it in if it needed the valves adjusted because of the need for specialist tools it has got to be cheaper than paying some trainee £60.00 an hour to do it


martin
 
My (Kawasaki) dealer managed to push a well nut (Rubber O-Ring type thingy with metal nut in centre) through into the airbox (intake side) and left it there.

This was found by me when I changed a battery, the mechanic must have known he had done it as he had put a new one in, but could not be bothered to spend the 10 minutes it would take to retrieve the lost one.

The air intake trumpets have a lip of @10mm, this could easily have jumped down into the engine causing a complete wreck, or even a nasty accident.

I would have no problems paying for ealer servicing if they did a proper job, but I know they don't do the job properly, mainly cos most of them are on a bonus to do it faster than book time (yet still charge you book time)

When you find some of them will happily risk your life to maintain their bonus it makes me wonder if a bit of lost resale value is not a small price to pay:nenau
 
Do "technicians" in BMW dealerships work on a bonus scheme based upon hours sold? This is not uncommon in car workshops. Technicians are just normal people, they have days when they're not at their best but they never have days when they don't need the money.

Do you want someone servicing your bike when the clock is against them? If you're capable, then servicing your bike yourself can take all day but is all part of the fun of ownership.

Investment in spec tools is not expensive compared to the, arguably, unecessary bling that we bolt to our bikes and holds a greater resale value if no longer required. The genuine DVD workshop manual is only £50! It lists every step, every tool and every part (it also seems to say "Billed as a seperate item" alot which tells its own tale)
 
andyclift said:
plus the knowledge that only coms with experience
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Andy, I started my apprenticeship at Toyota, aged 16, within 2 weeks - yep 2 weeks, owners were handing over the keys of their pride and joy to the pretty receptionist in the lovely double glazed, pot plant filled office who then gave them to me (who couldn't even drive!) to service that car to schedule. Civvy training is not always as thorough nor supervised as military, I was GEM 69 and GEF 64 at St Athan. As for resale value, we're all intelligent enough, I feel that if you came to buy my bike you would recognise its mechanical authenticity.
 
I have always serviced my own bikes from new.
I have run independent car garages and so long as the MANUFACTURER'S service schedule is followed then there is no problem with warranty.
I now work for a huge company in their fleet department, controlling the maintenance on 9000+ vehicles from cars and vans to bespoke equipped HGVs and so long as the MANUFACTURER'S service schedule is followed there is no problem with warranty, resale value or recalls.

The manufacturer will lay down a schedule to ensure certain parts are checked, adjusted and changed as per their instructions. So long as you can prove that has been done, then there's no problem.

Find and print off the relevant service check sheet (easily available from the internet), fill it out as you service the bike, make any notes of defects, extra repairs, disc thicknesses, tyre tread depths etc and you will have fulfilled the required criteria. And you'll know it's been done right.

As someone else has stated here, for a lot of us, it's part of the fun of ownership, you're far more likely to go that extra mile and over-service the bike, than to do the bare minimum stated on the check sheet because you've got another 4 bikes waiting to be done before 5pm.
 
Investment in spec tools is not expensive compared to the, arguably, unecessary bling that we bolt to our bikes and holds a greater resale value if no longer required. The genuine DVD workshop manual is only £50! It lists every step, every tool and every part (it also seems to say "Billed as a seperate item" alot which tells its own tale)


is this dvd availiable for the 2010 model yet ???
 
Nippy Normans supply Touratech, Wunderlich, Desert Fox and many other makes of accessories.
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