DME Update???

I emailed the service manager at Chester yesterday and asked about the DME update and it's purpose. He replied....
"Hi David. In the event of a gear change that is inadvertently not completed, this software update prevents the transmission from becoming stuck between two gears. This new software version makes gear changes more reliable and smoother. Hope this clears it up for you. Thanks Gary"

I had this done at 18k service a month ago and have subsequently done a tour of the Alps and Pyrenees. No dramas or problems and Hilltop remap is as good as it's always been.:thumb2
 
The DME updates are not peculiar to 1200 WC motorcycles. For instance, my 20011 1600 GT has had one, maybe two in its lifetime. The second (of maybe the first) was to address a possible valve timing issue that might manifest itself under certain conditions. What is unusual (though maybe not entirely unexpected) is some bods going into a flat spin as to whether third party work (magical wizardry in some circles, deceitful fraud in others) carried out on the ECU will render:

The wizardry / fraud useless, or

The DME update useless, or

The bike a potential time bomb, or

That BMW might find out, or

That an insurer might find out, or

All of the above

This motorcycle ownership, BMW's continuous improvement care, tiptop Hilltop tuning - wizardry or fraud, take your pick - malarkey is all getting too hard and confusing.... Time to head to the S1000XR and not worry about any of it, I suggest.
 
I emailed the service manager at Chester yesterday and asked about the DME update and it's purpose. He replied....
"Hi David. In the event of a gear change that is inadvertently not completed, this software update prevents the transmission from becoming stuck between two gears. This new software version makes gear changes more reliable and smoother. Hope this clears it up for you. Thanks Gary"

Makes sense if you have a quick shifter otherwise just adds to the confusion :)
 
The DME updates are not peculiar to 1200 WC motorcycles. For instance, my 20011 1600 GT has had one, maybe two in its lifetime. The second (of maybe the first) was to address a possible valve timing issue that might manifest itself under certain conditions. What is unusual (though maybe not entirely unexpected) is some bods going into a flat spin as to whether third party work (magical wizardry in some circles, deceitful fraud in others) carried out on the ECU will render:

The wizardry / fraud useless, or

The DME update useless, or

The bike a potential time bomb, or

That BMW might find out, or

That an insurer might find out, or

All of the above

This motorcycle ownership, BMW's continuous improvement care, tiptop Hilltop tuning - wizardry or fraud, take your pick - malarkey is all getting too hard and confusing.... Time to head to the S1000XR and not worry about any of it, I suggest.

It can be very confusing as it takes a detailed understanding of how these things work in order to get ones head around it, unlike the old days :) but that is no reason not to try if one is interested.

As long as the bike has an accessible embedded microprocessor engine (and/or other stuff) control system then it is possible to make all sorts of updates for all sorts of issues as and when they are discovered. If a third party 'tuner' puts his mods in too or replaces the BMW stuff with his own then it gets even more confusing - so if I was to get a 'tuner' to make changes to my bike I'd like it to very clear that it did not cause any unwanted interactions with the BMW critical updates either present or future.
 
- so if I was to get a 'tuner' to make changes to my bike I'd like it to very clear that it did not cause any unwanted interactions with the BMW critical updates either present or future.

A bit difficult for anyone to predict the future. I've never had a software engineer guarantee anything to me until they've written it, let alone in advance so can't see how you're ever going to get one to guarantee what a third party is likely to do in future coding not yet conceived.
 
A bit difficult for anyone to predict the future. I've never had a software engineer guarantee anything to me until they've written it, let alone in advance so can't see how you're ever going to get one to guarantee what a third party is likely to do in future coding not yet conceived.

All you can do is ask your tuner if their changes will undo/overwrite/modify any BMW critical updates or if their update will stop future BMW critical updates being accepted. I wouldn't expect them to make such a promise, so therefore you have to take the risk. If you only let BMW make changes then it is BMW that takes the risk.

Caveat Emptor :)
 


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