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I am looking to buy a second hand 2008 gs1200 but nearly all the bikes for sale have ESA! Has any body had any problems with esa is it reliable? How expensive is it to replace a shock in the future? Does it work? Would you recommend it?

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Yes it works - if you feel you need it.

Personally after 24K with ESA on a K12GT mostly 2-up it became the forgotten button on the bars. It was set to 2-up with luggage and "Normal" and hardly changed in the 18 months of ownership.

Needless to say, when I was looking to swap for my R12GS ADV I saved some dosh by going for a used, low miles '07 model with just ABS, heated grips and the computer thingy. And I've never missed it, doubt if I ever will. It's very over-rated.

The front shock on my K12GT had a problem - fixed under warranty thank God! - replacement price €2000 plus fitting.

It's just another braggin-rights "boys-toy" gadget to wrong.
 
I had it on a K1200S, used it quite a bit, and could definitely notice the difference between sport and comfort modes.

Despite it being good, it spent most if its time on the sport setting.

I did change the setting between solo and passenger, but that's only really a twist of pre-load.

I know of a few people who have had them fail and they are bloody expensive to replace (although most were done under warranty).

I don't have it on my GS, and don't miss it at all (especially since fitting a set of Wilbers shocks) - I can manage to turn the remote pre-load almost as easily as pressing a button on the handlebars.

TBH, if you want it and can afford it then why not?
It will probably make the bike more desirable when you sell it (maybe).
Just be aware that if they go wrong its really expensive!

The clincher for me would be if the actual ride feels as though the bike is better sprung than the non ESA version.

Adding fancy adjustment to a poor or too soft shock doesn't address the underlying issue - so if you think it needs to be sharper, then spend your money on aftermarket conventional springs rather than ESA.

Personally I wouldn't go for ESA again - it was cool at the time but, with hindsight, there were better things I could have spent the money on (like an exhaust system and PCIII).
 
It's just another braggin-rights "boys-toy" gadget to wrong.

Well, that, and a pretty useful way to change the setup of the bike if you use it the way it was designed to be used.

If you treat it as a two-wheeled chelsea tractor, then yes, it is not much use.

Personally, when I turn off the autostrada to an interestingly wiggly piece of dirt road, I do like to be able to switch to off-road settings without getting off and arsing around with knobs.
 
Well, that, and a pretty useful way to change the setup of the bike if you use it the way it was designed to be used.

If you treat it as a two-wheeled chelsea tractor, then yes, it is not much use.

Basically, yes. My ADV is a nice big comfy touring machine with a good tank range and nice riding position.

Personally, when I turn off the autostrada to an interestingly wiggly piece of dirt road, I do like to be able to switch to off-road settings without getting off and arsing around with knobs.
Could argue that you need to change from a purpose made autostrada tyre to a purpose made dirt tyre in that situation ... but couldn't be arsed so you ride on a multi-purpose tyre such as a Tourance ...
 
Basically, yes. My ADV is a nice big comfy touring machine with a good tank range and nice riding position.


Could argue that you need to change from a purpose made autostrada tyre to a purpose made dirt tyre in that situation ... but couldn't be arsed so you ride on a multi-purpose tyre such as a Tourance ...

This is true, but BMW do not offer a tyre changing service at the bottom of each ski station's access road. Fortunately, they do have some clever technology to let the GS perform well in some very diverse conditions.

Seriously, if you are going to use the bike away from the Tarmac , the adjustment is extremely useful.
 
There are lots of pro's and con's when making the decision about ESA, and not made easier by BMW configuring these "Packs".

I was going to swap the K12GT for either an RT or GS ADV. Was advised that if I bought an RT it had to be the SE with all the toys (ala my K12GT) as when I came to sell it prospective purchasers would want ESA , etc, etc. So that crossed the RT of the list. Then with the ADV I had a similar if different issue. The only extra I wanted was ABS (grips etc), not tyre monitors, ESP, ESA, etc, etc. But the cost of ABS was £900 and made it a stupid choice to purchase outside of a "Pack".
So I bought a low miles used 07 with ABS.

One of my thoughts about ESA, and a part in my choice not to have it fitted was the future maintenance and costs. When an ESA bike is 4-5 years old will having ESA be a good or bad feature. Look at the number and values of 1150's because people want a more simple design. Could be a similar story with ESA.
 
A bit like the servo ABS brakes then. Brilliant until they go wrong, and very expensive to repair.

I rode a mates '08 GSA with ESA and thought it was good, but couldn't justify the expense or complexity for my own bike. But then again, I don't chop my bikes in for a new one every 2 years. If I did, I'd probably have it as an option.
 
i plan to keep the bike for quite some time so i think taking every thing into consideration i will opt to go without esa.
 


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