Mine used to be hard to find neutral and clunky changes, but after 20000 miles it is smooth and neutral is found first time.. but in to first, oh dear..... i think the gearbox takes about 15 to 18 thou to bed in, i do not know if others would agree.
Finding Neutral
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GS_or_bust
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If I am going to be stopped at lights for any length of time then I just hit the kill switch and sit back and effectively have the handbrake on. When the lights change then a dab on the start button and away I ride. It's far easier than doing the 'Hendon shuffle'.
It was actually the BMW offroad course that taught me to forget about neutral. You can spot the people who have to leave their bike in neutral as they are the last ones to the bar. Just stop and put the sidestand down to kill the engine and then pull out the keys and walk away.
andylel
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Nikonnigel
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I'm Keyless so I'm ahead of you on that one
I am with you on the parking thing - I always leave it in gear, and I mostly kill the bike with the side stand. But our views differ at red lights - I just don't get your point blank refusal to select neutral for thirty seconds and relax. On .. off .. on .. off with the kill switch at a set of traffic lights .. ?? It's all a bit above the radar for me .. !!
Software update done but still difficult to find neutral......
Ummmmm .... I can't see how for the life of me, a software update is going to have any effect on gearboxes and clutch plates .....
Theearly model demo LC I road tested had the neutral issue, it would jump back and forward first second, se cond to first but would not drop into neutral.
So I bought a better bike.
So I bought a better bike.
Ummmmm .... I can't see how for the life of me, a software update is going to have any effect on gearboxes and clutch plates .....
It can't but it can have an effect on the gear change process by controlling engine revs during the change.
Big Rob1200
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Those of you who wear enduro/mx boots get yourselves a set of Pivotpegs. Great for off road and much easier to get the boot under the gear lever. Simples!!
I don't sit at a red light in gear. IAM and RoSPA may not like the idea of selecting neutral before you've actually stopped, but actually I do that a lot .... those last few feet of travel I'm normally in neutral and putting my right foot on the floor.
I do agree that there is a place for being aware of what's happening behind you when you're the last in the queue at the lights. I try not to stop bang in the middle of somebodies number plate, but rather in their off side wheel track so I have a natural escape route if I need it. In thirty years I've never been rear ended, but I guess I do subconsciously plan for it. (One of the reasons why many bikers think the hendon Shuffle is pants and that they'd rather sit covering their gear lever). So for me it's neutral, but left foot ready to go and half an eye in mirrors looking for the next bloke to join the queue.
On fast roads (motorways / dual carriageways) where there's sporadic stationary traffic, the risk of a small pile up is actually quite high. I would say that daily, there is a three car shunt on the approach to the dartford river crossing. It's probably more relevant to car driving (a bike is going to go for the gap..) but I very much think about being shunted in those motorway scenarios. I always leave a good twenty yards or so between me and the car in front until I see the bod behind me reacting and slowing down.
Hard finding neutral - its a feature.
I've had a 13 and 14LC and both are hard to N find when warm. When cold, its like slicing through butter. It also seems to get worse the closer to a service the bike gets.
I've had a 13 and 14LC and both are hard to N find when warm. When cold, its like slicing through butter. It also seems to get worse the closer to a service the bike gets.
I've had a 13LC and now have a 15LC, neutral is slightly harder to find on the newer bike - but it's no big deal really.
Agree, no big deal - you adapt and get on with it.
Went to the dealer.
Explained the issue.
They agreed and made a few adjustments.
Now I find Neutral where it should be.
faaark you guys need to have a have go on my Guzzi if you think finding neutral is hard on a GS
And that's what I've experienced on every other bike I've ever ridden since 1970. Apart from Hondas but they don't count. But my thinking is that if I"m having trouble selecting neutral I've not planned my gear selection properly anyway.
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