Fitting Autocom Into Shoei Multitec?

[gsbiker]

Well this is a follow on from my other thread of course... http://www.ukgser.com/forums/showthread.php?t=171597

Found out that the autocom speakers are too large for my RAID2 helmet (or at least it was for my head). I'm thinking of either forgetting about bike coms altogether or buy another helmet. Tried on a Multitec yesterday which apparently is the only Shoei helmet to accommodate bike intercoms but before I shell out £300 on something I wasn't planning for I need some advise please. Can I fit autocom speakers in this helmet for it to be comfy both wearing and putting on and off without hurting my ears? Basically is this the best helmet choice for Autocom mic and speakers?

How much for the optional boom mic which is what I would need for this helmet?

 

[trangwales]

I've got the Autocom headset in my Multitech Paul.
The earphones went in fine and don't cause a problem or pressure on the ears.
The boom mike is a bit of a faff to get right - I've got the whisper kit thingy under the flip up front and it wacks the mike everytime I open or close it. The wiring fits inside the cheek piece - I did have a problem getting the front button to clip back but using ducktape rather than the supplied adhesive pads has worked OK.
IMHO the Multitech is a better helmet than the Raid 2 - I've not used my Raid 2 since I changed helmets.

 

[columbus]

As above I took the whisperkit off for convieniece as it hit my mike too. The Din plug I ran through the leather type cover on the fixing strap and secured it with an elastic band under the cheek pad. It works for me

 

[Wapping]

Tried on a Multitec yesterday which apparently is the only Shoei helmet to accommodate bike intercoms but before I shell out £300 on something I wasn't planning for I need some advise please. Can I fit autocom speakers in this helmet for it to be comfy both wearing and putting on and off without hurting my ears? Basically is this the best helmet choice for Autocom mic and speakers?

How much for the optional boom mic which is what I would need for this helmet?

Lots of questions.

(a) Can YOU fit the speakers and wires in? I shall be polite and say, maybe yes.

(b) Will they hurt YOUR ears / head. Who can tell? It's YOUR physiology not ours.

(c) Is it YOUR best choice? If YOU want a Shoei flip-front, then maybe. If YOU don't, then possibly not.

(d) The price of the boom mike? On the Autocom website or use Google search.

Not asked, but to save you the inevitable trouble later:

Are there alternatives to Autocom? Yes

Do the alternatives have different speakers? Yes

Do the alternatives have different mic's? Yes

Can you run an Autocom and use alternative speakers or in-ear devices? Yes

Are the alternatives better / worse / the same as Autocom? How long have you got?

Is it the only Shoei that will allow com's to be fitted? No

What do you do with your reasonably new (but apparently now defunct) helmet? Offer it for sale on UKGSer or throw it in the bin or keep it in a cupboard or wear it when you don't want com's or learn how to fit Autocom's com's (or an alternative manufacturer's) properly or cut your ears off or shrink your head.

PS You only need the microphone if you have somebody or something to talk to.

 

[gsbiker]

I've got the Autocom headset in my Multitech Paul.
The earphones went in fine and don't cause a problem or pressure on the ears.
The boom mike is a bit of a faff to get right - I've got the whisper kit thingy under the flip up front and it wacks the mike everytime I open or close it. The wiring fits inside the cheek piece - I did have a problem getting the front button to clip back but using ducktape rather than the supplied adhesive pads has worked OK.
IMHO the Multitech is a better helmet than the Raid 2 - I've not used my Raid 2 since I changed helmets.

Did you have same problem with your RAID2 helmet? Speaker pressure on your ears?

 

[Deleted Member I]

Autocom Products Limited
Unit 4, Tachbrook Link
Tachbrook Park Drive
Warwick
CV34 6RH
United Kingdom

Telephone:
01926 431249



I have multitec. mic and headphones fitted by autcom. It works.

They also said Multitec is best helmet for their headphones and mic. Easiest to fit and no amendments made.

 

[Wapping]

Autocom Products Limited
Unit 4, Tachbrook Link
Tachbrook Park Drive
Warwick
CV34 6RH
United Kingdom

Telephone:
01926 431249

He's been on to GSrich already....... See other thread..... http://www.ukgser.com/forums/showthread.php?t=171597

How's the commute going?

Tai-pan booked?

 

[Deleted Member I]

He's been on to GSrich already....... See other thread..... http://www.ukgser.com/forums/showthread.php?t=171597

How's the commute going?

Tai-pan booked?

Commute is alright (although fighting with minicab drivers might not be the best thing for my health). Went back on the tube yesterday to show some out of towners around London. What a fecking crap network we have in London, it's just so third world. Then walked passed the mayor's office to goto dinner and realise where all the money has gone


Tai-Pan not booked yet. Will book next week after posting an update.

 

[Wapping]

Commute is alright (although fighting with minicab drivers might not be the best thing for my health). Went back on the tube yesterday to show some out of towners around London. What a fecking crap network we have in London, it's just so third world. Then walked passed the mayor's office to goto dinner and realise where all the money has gone


Tai-Pan not booked yet. Will book next week after posting an update.

Public transport... a bit too 'public' and not enough 'transport' in my humble.

Don't fight. They have a car, you have a bike. The odds are not good. If they get out, the odds will shorten further (and you ain't that tall)

Good work on the Tai-pan.

Go anywhere nice for dinner in SE1? Up the Oxo Tower, perchance?

 

[Deleted Member I]

Public transport... a bit too 'public' and not enough 'transport' in my humble.

Don't fight. They have a car, you have a bike. The odds are not good. If they get out, the odds will shorten further (and you ain't that tall)

Good work on the Tai-pan.

Go anywhere nice for dinner in SE1? Up the Oxo Tower, perchance?

Blue Print cafe ..

 

[Wapping]

Blue Print cafe ..

Blueprint. Excellent.

 

[Deleted Member I]

Blueprint. Excellent.

Went there for the Evening standard offer ... then decided A La Carte looked better

 

[gsbiker]

Wapping you are soooo sarcastic!

(a) Can YOU fit the speakers and wires in? I shall be polite and say, maybe yes. Yes I can

(b) Will they hurt YOUR ears / head. Who can tell? It's YOUR physiology not ours. Simple question enough to answer. I didn't think I would have a problem with my helmet until I tried them.

(c) Is it YOUR best choice? If YOU want a Shoei flip-front, then maybe. If YOU don't, then possibly not. This is a general question, of course it would be my choice but I'm hear asking questions to find out dummy!

(d) The price of the boom mike? On the Autocom website or use Google search. No it isn't! I didn't go to google I CAME HERE! Do you know the answer or not?

Not asked, but to save you the inevitable trouble later:

Are there alternatives to Autocom? Yes
I'm not going to buy another system!

Do the alternatives have different speakers? Yes
N/A

Do the alternatives have different mic's? Yes
N/A

Can you run an Autocom and use alternative speakers or in-ear devices? Yes
N/A

Are the alternatives better / worse / the same as Autocom? How long have you got?
N/A

Is it the only Shoei that will allow com's to be fitted? No
It is THE ONLY Shoei designed for coms, thats not to say you can't fit to other Shoeis

What do you do with your reasonably new (but apparently now defunct) helmet?
I have two bikes, my current helmet was bought specifically for my 1st bike. So I will be keeping it.

Keep your sarcasm to yourself but keep the funny stuff coming

 

[rob mac]

Try this link for a cheaper deal (includes free second tinted visor and whisper kit)

http://www.topgearsuperstore.com/-c...-helmet-shoei-multitec-anthracite-p-2794.html

 

[Wapping]

You are a sensitive fellow but invariably vanishing up your own backside with questions, frequently not listening to the answers people provide you with.

However, as it's Sunday.

Lots of helmets* are easy to put com's into. Sometimes, as is the case with an Arai Quantum F say, you have to do a little light carving** to the expanded polystyrene and use some robust gaffer tape to get it all neat but it's not difficult or dangerous.

Yes. The Multitech is easy to put speakers into. As you observed yourself it was apparently designed with the usage in mind, so why might it not be? You held one in your hands and tried one on. What did you think when you looked at it?

The boom mike, as another person has told you, makes it difficult to refit the popper fastener on the Shoei Multitech's cheek pad, so use some heavy duty velcro to hold it in place or do a bit of carving. The bud microphone on the Starcom system does not have this problem but take care you do not cut the lead in the hinge of the helmet. I think the in-helmet speakers are softer (or thinner) on Starcom's gear as well.

The boom mike works well with the Multitech and the noise reduction device works well, too. Just take a bit of care when you set both in place. I leave you to investigate the price.

As to whether the Multitech will suit your head and / or whether it will hurt your ears (with or without the speakers) only you can tell. Helmets, like heads, come in different shapes, sizes and weights. I take a small in Shoei (or at least in the Multitec version) and a medium in Arai. I have com's fitted into both, without any pain in the fitting or wearing departments. I cannot even get an AGV on, though Rossi seems to be able to.

I tried a Nolan (another flip-front helmet apparently designed with com's in mind and bluetooth ready) but could not get on with it. I sold it to a bod on this site, who thinks it's fine. So, it's horses for courses; Only you will know if a helmet suits you and is comfortable, nobody else.

If you really find the Autocom speakers too intrusive, you can change them by cutting the wires and soldering some softer ones on in their place. Or you can dispense with the speakers completely and go for in-ear monitors. There are umpteen threads on the topic.

That should (when read with my earlier post) just about answer all your questions.

* I have seen com's fitted and worn - with no discomfort - in AGV's, other Shoei's, Dainese, BuMW and Shoeberth. It really is a universal thing.

**A hot tip of a soldering iron, or even a simple nail heated on a gas ring, is often good for cutting a channel to fit wires and mikes in neatly. Cover the channel with tape, recover with the helmet liner. Job done.




Stay happy.

 

[vireo]

Multitec and Autocom

Its a reasonably straightforward fit........though a slow process if you're takeing it carefully (as you would with a new lid...). I have the boom mic fitted and it workd great...........can post a few pics if necessary?

Vireo

 

[Wapping]

The cabling runs between the shell and the neck roll. Easy. I have the draught excluder fitted, some people don't like them.

Autocom lead, restrained when not in use, to stop it flapping around. It has got soaking wet, dusty, frozen and boiled to no ill effect.

The noise reduction device.

The problem with the boom being too broad for the popper.

My ear. Ears, like finger prints, are unique to individuals. Yours will be different.

Helmet on. Ears working.

 

[trangwales]

Did you have same problem with your RAID2 helmet? Speaker pressure on your ears?

I had another type of headphone in the RAID2 (to hear the GPS, but no Autocom) - about the same size as the Autocom ones. I kept on getting an ear trapped and folded over if I didn't wear a balaclava. It was a bit uncomfortable even when I got it right. In the end I went for Senheiser (sp?) earpieces which were ok but the wires were too thin.
The multitech is quieter than the RAID2 and comfortable. When you get to +30deg C you can open up and breath as well!!

 

[Deleted Member I]

ARRRRGGGGGHHHHH!!!


















I will get my coat

 

[Wapping]

I will get my coat

It's on the low hook....