Gearshift pro, keyless ignition

Alan R

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I'm thinking of buying a new GSA TE spec. I'm interested in the experiences of those that have the gear shift pro and keyless ignition options. Are they desirable/useful or a complete pain. Looking for user experience rather than vicarious opinion.
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Alan R:thumb2
 
I've personally found both useful feature, I'm a relatively new rider and on some of the really steeper/twisty inclines I found the gear shift handy as gave me a better sense of control with one less thing to think about - that's pretty much what I use it for, occasional use for quick acceleration but I'm not predominantly a speed freak and neither is the GSA.

The keyless ignition I didn't realise how good it was until I had my GS stolen and rented a bike (RT) which had a key, as a step back (being previously spoilt) I found myself putting gloves on etc only then take them off and do the usual pocket hunt - hardly a major issue but when I bought my GSA it was a no brainer. That said I'm sure those who have been riding for years are more coordinated than me, now I just need to solve the problem of forgetting to put in earplugs

I've seen the odd video of people snatching keys in traffic (crazy world) so depending on where you live it's one less thing I guess - I'm in London so it's a not a basis on which to go keyless alone but feels better option for my use case.


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Both good, the gearshift pro is extemely useful, and a hoot to boot! (see what I did there?!):beerjug:
 
It's a bit like choosing the colour, depends on you so you will get varying replies

I have GSAP and like it, it is good if you know how to use it, you need to be either on the gas or off, nothing in between or it won't work correctly and you'll hate it

Incidentally mine is a lot smoother since the last service, don't know if they've improved the software or just put some oil in the thing :blast

I didn't spec keyles as I always put my lid in my topbox, so one way or another i will be needing a key each time I start or stop, nothing against it, just not for me
 
They are toys, I have the GSP and use it occasionally but it's not natural like pulling the clutch, if you like toys that aren't necessary go for it, if not don't :)
 
I have both. They're great. Keyless doesn't make it a better bike but I like the convenience.

GSAP does (IMO) make the bike better. Not so smooth from 1-2 gear but almost seemless after that. The test bike I road before ordering my GSA did not have GSAP and I personally feel that it makes a big difference. Sounds cool too
 
I had my TE for about 1200 miles now, keyless is quite useful especially for fuel fill ups, but also bare in mind some people have driven off and left key in seat lock, or top box (not sure if possible on a GS TE though, but other bikes) some have lost said key and you do not find out till you got to start it after switching off. (I actually get a spare key cut and never take the main key out of my pocket so never lose it)
Gear Shift Pro, the one main benefit is a very smooth gear change when accelerating very fast, it is actually quite good if you do it right at right revs etc. keeps the bike very stable, where as you can unsettle the bike trying to change gear too fast and hard on hard acceleration, as for down shifts do not really see the point so far (or is it the upshifts :)
 
I had gear assist retro fitted and it's been one of the best upgrades I can think of to be honest and keyless ignition for my average run the key never leave my jacket so that's a blessing in my book


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Both are brilliant, I'd order them again with NO HESITATION

What he said.

Keyless is a very handy convenience (I guess until the key packs up) and GSAP is brilliant once you've worked out when you can and can't use it. Pillions will like it too as the shifts will be even smoother so no helmet into your back on the downshift ;-)
 
I had two with mine but also have the alarm fitted so not sure if that makes a difference ?


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Started out sceptical about the keyless, but now really appreciate it, though I think it is essential to have a non-electronic spare key cut just for unlocking seats, satnav, etc, so that you can keep the keyless fob permanently in a pocket, as otherwise there is a risk of losing the one and only electronic key (apart from plastic emergency key).

The quick shifter I really don't use much. I've tried it, and on upshifts IMO is only really good under hard acceleration which is not really my style most of the time. If short shifting or making more leisurely progress it can be quite jerky. I might use it more for downshifting, particularly on roads like dual carriageways with frequent islands as it can get a bit tedious going down through all the gears, though the bike down shifts very nicely manually with a bit of throttle blipping anyway, so it is no real hardship.

The only problem with downshifts is that you have to have the throttle fully shut for it to work, but this gives full engine braking and can slow you down quicker than you really want unless you are leaving your deceleration to the last minute - so again IMO really more suited to when pressing on. I often ride with a pillion, so I more often change down early on a part throttle to avoid throwing the pillion forwards, with a reasonable gap between each downshift, and it can't really be used for that style of riding.

Fred
 
Love keyless - hate GSAP, feels like a brick sometimes. It's the last thing I'd spec an another bike.
Mainly down to the fact that it's mostly down to me using it. I don't have the articulation in my left ankle and have to lift my foot instead of rotating my ankle. Sometimes it works other times it's rock solid and other times it's somewhere in between.
 
Thanks people, you all seem to be like minded (nearly) and confirmed my decision.
Alan R:thumb2
 
So can you ride with just the plastic emergency key in your pocket?

No. plastic one has no 'keyless' capability. Needs to be held close to a specific point near the rear wheel before bike will start. Works on pannier locks though.
 


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