Getting LC GS 1200 ready for America trip

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In just under a week's time, if everything goes to plan, I'll be air freighting the bike into Las Vegas and spending 5 weeks exploring Utah, Nevada and Colorado, two up, before provisionally sea freighting it back out of New York.

It's not the first time I've ridden in America but it is the first time two up and on a larger capacity bike. We've not planned it much, only booking the flights the other week so it's a quick case of getting the bike ready in time.

The bike is a 2014 model ex Si Pavey training school bike, bought from Bahnstormers in Maidenhead. It'd done 3800 miles when I got it and now has around 7400. It was obviously a bit beaten up what with being an ex training school bike but that's what I wanted, a bike that I could use and not worry too much about dinging or dropping. I fitted TKC80s not long after getting it and have done a fair bit of off-roading, which I find okay once you get the hang of it.

A few months ago I fitted the full AltRider crash bar set up, with the engine guards, the upper guards and the sump guard. The engine guards were easy enough to fit, coming with a longer top engine mounting bolt, bolting to a lug just ahead of the engine and then down at the engine mounts at the bottom of the frame. They've taken a good few whacks and seem to be holding up okay. The upper guards are a bit of a pain in the baskside to fit as you need to take the top cowls off to get at the front frame mounts; about a two hour job. The sump guard is a swine as it doesn't actually bolt to the sump as on the original. Instead it bolts to the engine guards, and then to the centre stand pivot points to give a total of 6 mounting points (3 each side).

To bolt to the centre stand you have to knock out the original pins and replace them with AltRider's own. The trick is to knock the old ones out with the new ones. Fail in doing that, as I did, and the centre stand drops and you have the mission of getting that and the springs back on. Not fun, but now it's on it's properly secure, just reduces the ground clearance a touch but the idea is that if it takes a good wallop it doesn't rip out the sump lugs, and as you can't buy a new sump you need a complete engine, or so I'm told.

I've just put some Metal Mule panniers on, the Utes, which are the budget Mule's. They just manage without the quick release system, grab handles and fancy blue silicon seal around the lid, but they're about £400 less and within the width of the bars, which is what I wanted. I've gone for a 31 on the right and a 38-litre on the left. Like the Touratech frames and a few others that bolt through the exhaust mount and through the rear pillion peg lugs there is that chicken and the egg of needing to take the exhaust off and the rear pegs and not being able to tighten them both back up. Metal Mule solved it with a replacement exhaust mount bolt with a socket head rather than the standard allen key fitment (you couldn't get the alen key in for the way the MM frames blocked access).

I've also fitted the Metal Mule rear rack which is where the camping gear's going to sit in a dry bag.

Other modifications over the past few months have also included Pivot Pegz to replace the slightly bent standard ones. I also wanted a wider foot platform for off roading. Not sure if I like the Pivot Pegz yet. I've still not got used to the rocking sensation and would probably prefer a fixed platform.

I've also fitted a Wunderlich adjustable gear change to replace the bent one the bike came with. Does the job and makes the bike look neater.

The only other thing I've fitted is a Wunderlich screen brace which are only £30 and take out all the flap. They just bolt to the screen and the lugs on the dials. I fitted them because not longer after getting the bike the screen collapsed after the two plastic retainer arms that run up and down on a pin snapped. Too much vibration off road I think. They were a swine to replace. I since heard there was an easier way, but I ended up with the headlight and clocks out to replace them. Not happening again I thought, so hopefully the Wunderlich supports will stop it happening again.

I've also got a pair of Conti TKC70s to fit. I rode a few bikes on them a while ago and liked them, and they should do 5-6k miles, which is what we intend to do.

Just got a few other bits and bobs to sort out and that's it. Will have to get the bike serviced out there but that should be okay.

A few pics...

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This is the replacement bolt they send you instead of the allen key to mount the panniers through the exhaust mount

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Wobbly pic of Pivot Pegz. Still not convinced.

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The screen braces from Wunderlich. You can still adjust the screen, just have to loosen and then tighten the lock nuts.

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You can see from this pic the three mounting points of the AltRider sump guard

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The underside of the upper guards. You have to take all the tank plastics off to get at the front harness to mount the bracket. A bit fiddly but once the bracket's on you can leave it on, even if you want to take the bars off.

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The Ute's lose the quick release system of the Max, so they screw on just like the old Zegas.

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Hoping to fit some AltRider top bags on top of the panniers.

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Apparently with the AltRider engine guards off you can still get the engine covers off for valve inspection without having to remove the bars. Will find out next service.

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I like that the panniers are narrower than the bars

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Also fitted a headlight guard. Once the frame's in place the perspex just pushes on and off with lugs through rubber bugs. So easy to clean.

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Another shot of the screen support

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The TKC80s have been pretty good. So far I've got about 2500 miles out of the rear. It's getting worn now and whilst I didn't like them on the road to begin with I've got used to them now. Switching to the 70s. Tried them before and found them good on the road and good enough for any of the trails we might do in the States.

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Wunderlich gear lever was easy to fit and gives good adjustment. I like the look of it as well.

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Another shot of how it all bolts together.

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Just got a tank bag to go on and then we're pretty much ready to go. I need to take the bike down to James Cargo on Thursday. We fly in a week later. The bike should be there by then. Fingers crossed!
 
Sounds like a great trip. Just added it to my bucket list. How expensive is it to ship the bike there and back? What papers do you need to import temporarily to USA? What Insurance cover ?
Hope you have a trouble free great time... safe riding
 
Bike looks good have a great trip,hopefully you will post a few photos!
Good luck����
 
Looks well set for a trip anywhere.
Best of luck on your trip. Don't forget to do a RR ;).
 
Thanks guys. Hopefully the bike is all good to go. It's served me well so far, touch wood.

I'm shipping with James Cargo which, being an agency, always are a bit more than going straight to the actual boat or airline company. I get confirmation of cost on Thursday. I'd expect around £1200 to get it there. You can do it cheaper if you ship into LA or New York, much cheaper. It's just for various reasons I'm going to fly in and boat it out of New York. All up I'm reckoning on about £2000 there and back. There are cheaper options, but I know the company and it's an easy job of dropping the bike down with them and the next you see of it it's at the airport in the US. They crate it up and you can crate it with all the panniers on, so pretty straight forward. There's a bit of customs work at the other end but last time I did it it took a few hours then you're free to go.

Being there for more than 3 weeks, for me at least, it makes sense to take your own. Rental prices on a GS1200 with someone like Eagle Rider are crazy. Probably twice as much for the time we're there as it's costing to get the bike there. And I like travelling on my own bike; adds to the experience. Plus you know it. Plus no excess to pay for dings and drops. Will hopefully do a bit of trail riding whilst there so a rental bike would be too risky to risk. I've got crash bars on for a reason!

Insurance is with Motorcycle Express, who also do the shipping if you want them to. It's working out about £350 for up to two months, that's fully comp with breakdown cover. Easy done.

And in terms of paperwork it's dead easy with north America; for me that's the appeal. No need for a carnet, all you need to do is email the bike's details over to the authorities to get an EPA Letter of Approval, which is free and allows your bike to stay in the States for a year, though you're not supposed to leave without out. That and an ESTA 3 month visa for yourself and you're good to go.

Will definitely take some pics and stick them in a ride report thread.
 
Looks like you have your bike well prepared. I hope you have a nice ride and if you happen to end up riding through northern WV get in touch with me if you have any problems. Actually I have a spare bed room (and washer/dryer) you're welcome to use. BTW are you riding up the Blue Ridge Parkway?
 
I tried to sign up for the Nick Saunders USA thing last year but it was full booked. He was offering an amazing deal at something like 4.5 grand for return shipping to the states plus your accommodation while on the tour. It covered about 7000 mile as I recall in just under 3 weeks.

Anyway....best of luck with your trip and come back safe.
 
Thanks Clifton, that's a kind offer. We might be coming that way back across, up through the Apalachian Mountains. We just haven't put much thought into yet but will take you up on that offer if we do. Appreciated.

And that is a decent price GrantR. I imagine you'd be benefitting from a quantity shipment what with all those bikes going over at the same time, probably by boat in the same container. Personally a guided tour wouldn't be for me but each to their own. We're only hoping to do around 150 miles a day so not quite as many as Nick's tour. We'll be camping most of the way, just to keep costs down.
 
I tried to sign up for the Nick Saunders USA thing last year but it was full booked. He was offering an amazing deal at something like 4.5 grand for return shipping to the states plus your accommodation while on the tour. It covered about 7000 mile as I recall in just under 3 weeks.

Anyway....best of luck with your trip and come back safe.

This is definitely a bucket list thing for me, does anyone know if there is another trip like this planned, I would so love to do it. I've done some touring in the States in a car but always fancied a GS excursion as well.

Great post by the way OP, really interesting subject and enjoyed the pictures too
 
This is definitely a bucket list thing for me, does anyone know if there is another trip like this planned, I would so love to do it. I've done some touring in the States in a car but always fancied a GS excursion as well.

Great post by the way OP, really interesting subject and enjoyed the pictures too

He does it every year.....I couldn't consider it this year with work commitments in Azerbaijan ufortunately but here is the link for next years one. http://nicksanders.com/cms/adventures/incredible-usa-coast-to-coast-to-coast/

The beauty of it is that you don't have to stick to his route....you can do your own thing each day as long as you arrive at the planned destination each night. MCN did an article on it last year when one of their guys it.
 
Update 1

We fancied taking it slow and doing our own thing, hence no guided tour, but as a way of letting someone else deal with all the backend stuff the tours seem a good idea. Our plan is no more than 150 miles a day, and having flown into Vegas just spend the time exploring Utah, Nevada and Colorado. So Moab, Flagstaff, Death Valley, down to Roswell and Santa Fe in New Mexico... then something of a straight line across to New York to freight it back. The bike's almost ready, just need to take it down to James Cargo's depot on Friday and they do the rest.

Yesterday I got the TKC70s fitted to replace the 80s. I've ridden on them before and liked the balance of on road and off road but now they're on I do miss the aesthetics of the 80s. The problem would have been durability. Those I've taken off have been on just over 2000 miles and don't look to have too much life in them, so it would have meant a tyre change mid trip. Not the end of the world but the 70s should do the 5k miles or so no problems given reports coming back so far on their durability. I had them fitted at a little bike shop in Kennilworth called Behind Bars Motorcycles. Decent place for trail and trial type stuff.

I've also fitted a tank bag, going for an Oxford X20 in the end. I like their stuff because it's a bit no frills and just does what it says on the tin. I've always found the quality pretty good as well and I wasn't overly fussed about having a quick release tank collar, though I think they're working on one.

I've also got a tube repair kit which hopefully shall never need see light of day, and for spare oil I've gone for an ARD Cases aluminium 2-litre container. I saw these a while back and they're just a work of art. Not as cheap as a plastic one, but it was a bit of present to myself. Sadly, the supploed bracket doesn't mate to the mounting holes on the Mules so will have to remedy that somehow. Otherwise yesterday was a case of getting in some camping gear. I put the two man tent up I've had for a while in the back garden and when the partner looked inside she was a bit disheartened by the lack of space, so I've gone for an end of line Vango Alpha 3000 which was only £60 in the sale, is 3 man and has a decent porch area. A 5.6 kilo pack weight shouldn't be too bad on the back.

Now I'm just looking for some pannier top bags to put the clothes in. The plan is to have one each for clothes, with the pannier space saved for camping gear, cooking stuff and other bits and bobs. We're going to camp most of the way but don't want to overpack. The bike is heavy enough as it is!

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Not the best axle stand but the bricks did the job whilst the wheels were down at the shop. It also gave me chance to fit a new mudguard (a surprisingly cheap £55) after I cracked the original with a disc lock.

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Not the best equipped garage

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The original mudguard.

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The new tyres fitted

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The old tyres. A little bit of life left in them, after about 2300 miles.

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The Ard Cases fluid can, I think I paid £50 for it.

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One for tea, one for oil.

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Lovely engraved cap

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Oxford tank bag went on easy enough

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I didn't want one too big. Just enough space for camera and odds and sods.

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Just loops around the frame under the seat, then around the headstock at the front.

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We'll see how they get on.

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Visually I prefer it with the 80s on but the 70s still look ok.

Now just waiting on the EPA Letter of Approval to come through. They usually take around 2-3 weeks to come through and it's been that long now so hopefully it'll be here before Friday.
 
I bought a opair of these from the Wunderlich shop last month.
http://www.nippynormans.com/product...r-bags-left-r1200gsadv-and-more-wun-20790-000

They MAY fit your panniers but are designed to attach to the BMW ones and attach very well. Wife and I are using them next week for a fortnight trip to Portugal and they'll take all we need for an overnighter so are ideal for the ferry and the first nights stop. They expand and are very well made.
 
Yeah not good that shaft drive failing, but one of those things there's no point worrying about. The bike's still under warranty and I'll have breadown cover over there so if the worst happens...

And thanks for the link Davey. They're a bit more than the Givis but look pretty decent. I'll see how they compare size wise.
 
Thanks guys. Hopefully the bike is all good to go. It's served me well so far, touch wood.

I'm shipping with James Cargo which, being an agency, always are a bit more than going straight to the actual boat or airline company. I get confirmation of cost on Thursday. I'd expect around £1200 to get it there. You can do it cheaper if you ship into LA or New York, much cheaper. It's just for various reasons I'm going to fly in and boat it out of New York. All up I'm reckoning on about £2000 there and back. There are cheaper options, but I know the company and it's an easy job of dropping the bike down with them and the next you see of it it's at the airport in the US. They crate it up and you can crate it with all the panniers on, so pretty straight forward. There's a bit of customs work at the other end but last time I did it it took a few hours then you're free to go.

Being there for more than 3 weeks, for me at least, it makes sense to take your own. Rental prices on a GS1200 with someone like Eagle Rider are crazy. Probably twice as much for the time we're there as it's costing to get the bike there. And I like travelling on my own bike; adds to the experience. Plus you know it. Plus no excess to pay for dings and drops. Will hopefully do a bit of trail riding whilst there so a rental bike would be too risky to risk. I've got crash bars on for a reason!

Insurance is with Motorcycle Express, who also do the shipping if you want them to. It's working out about £350 for up to two months, that's fully comp with breakdown cover. Easy done.

And in terms of paperwork it's dead easy with north America; for me that's the appeal. No need for a carnet, all you need to do is email the bike's details over to the authorities to get an EPA Letter of Approval, which is free and allows your bike to stay in the States for a year, though you're not supposed to leave without out. That and an ESTA 3 month visa for yourself and you're good to go.

Will definitely take some pics and stick them in a ride report thread.

Thanks for that info. make sure to post your pics and have a great trip....Ed
 
He does it every year.....I couldn't consider it this year with work commitments in Azerbaijan ufortunately but here is the link for next years one. http://nicksanders.com/cms/adventures/incredible-usa-coast-to-coast-to-coast/

The beauty of it is that you don't have to stick to his route....you can do your own thing each day as long as you arrive at the planned destination each night. MCN did an article on it last year when one of their guys it.

Thanks so much for that, I have downloaded an application form and will be sending it off, is anyone else from here going ?
 
Not a "tube" repair kit is it? Shouldn't it be a tire plugging kit?

I bet you'll end up doing over 150 miles a day, in the western and mid-west at least. But coming east you'll loose an hour 3 times.
 
It is indeed a 'tyre' repair kit, not tube. Thanks for the correction.

And no doubt we could do a lot more miles a day, but we're two up, on holiday not going gung ho. There's a chance I'll be doing the west to east run solo so that'll be a 3-4 day stint, depending on which way I go. I'm pretty used to doing the hours on the bike if I need to.

Last trip was 35000 miles on the smaller bike of the two, so anything above 40mph is a luxury.

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