Colin Brown
Registered user
Now that looks great. Can you give us all a heads up as to how you achieved it? I think for many people on the site this could be the best modification ever.
Colin
Colin
Giving it horn...
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Looks good
yes i have done the same a couple of times, i always think bikes should have two horns! one that went hoot hoot as a friendly awareness! and another that went boom boom danger! but guess that would cause more red mist!
The worse thing with the beemer horn is when you do get it right and don't indicate left (loL) it sounds so weak like a toy!
Big D
The worse thing with the beemer horn is when you do get it right and don't indicate left (loL) it sounds so weak like a toy!
Big D
My magnum sound's great click here.http://www.stebel.it/stebel2009/suoni.asp?IDsuono=shtm80_m.swf
That is really iompressive
I have to admit that if you asked me now exactly where the button is, do I operate it with a particular finger or my thumb? - I have to think about it............and now its too late! Oh, dear a little cockpit drill is called for. But then I've only had GS's for about .........................9 years!;
Jusdt what I need when I am waiting for my wife - but I think we would soon be divorced! The only time I really feel the horn is essential, (as nas has been mentioned, is when someone is backing into you unaware that you are there. Otherwise it has little effect. ( a loud shout has worked in the past.)
I have to admit that if you asked me now exactly where the button is, do I operate it with a particular finger or my thumb? - I have to think about it............and now its too late! Oh, dear a little cockpit drill is called for. But then I've only had GS's for about .........................9 years!;
I've spent years left indicating at people about to hit me, thankfully surviving through grabbing a handful of brakes and/or swerving. My Stebel Magnum is the least used item on the bike.
Amazingly after 6 years on a GS I actually used the horn in anger last week against a myopic pensioner pulling out into my path whilst I was negotiating a large roundabout, I didn't even have to look down to find the button.
Maybe it just takes 6 years to develop the muscle memory required ???
Amazingly after 6 years on a GS I actually used the horn in anger last week against a myopic pensioner pulling out into my path whilst I was negotiating a large roundabout, I didn't even have to look down to find the button.
Maybe it just takes 6 years to develop the muscle memory required ???
mr badger
Registered user
I just rolled the bars forward a bit to make the switches sit more naturally.
muat have taken me almost 2 days to get used to the BMW system. Try riding a Honda and a Guzzi on alternate days for real fun.
muat have taken me almost 2 days to get used to the BMW system. Try riding a Honda and a Guzzi on alternate days for real fun.
You've read my mind.
I've often wondered how ...."but he had his left indicator on" would affect how an incident could be interpreted.
More importantly. The setup you've described is perfect. It must be. I've been suggesting it for ages.
Feck
That scared the bejesus outta me.
Try this one.
http://www.stebel.it/stebel2009/suoni.asp?IDsuono=shheavy_jum1.swfThat's better
That is the sound i would like to be able to make as I tug my GS backwards out of the parking bay into the traffic stream - a dangerous manœuvre!
That is the sound i would like to be able to make as I tug my GS backwards out of the parking bay into the traffic stream - a dangerous manœuvre!
The old K switchgear was, I think, easier to use. The indicators were similar, operated by a stab of the thumb in a 'downwards press' kind of movement, but the cancel or horn were operated by an upwards shift of the thumb- more of a sideways movement so the button was hit by the top of the first joint in your thumb. The muscle movements were very different.
On the GS, both indicating and cancel/horn are done by a 'stab' button. To do the cancel or horn you've got to lift your thumb, relocate onto another switch and press. When push comes to shove when a warning horn press is needed, I find that, indeed, it's too easy to just indicate loudly. Change isn't always progress, it seems.
On the GS, both indicating and cancel/horn are done by a 'stab' button. To do the cancel or horn you've got to lift your thumb, relocate onto another switch and press. When push comes to shove when a warning horn press is needed, I find that, indeed, it's too easy to just indicate loudly. Change isn't always progress, it seems.
GSband
Registered user
To make matters worse ...
... a new layout for all switchgear on R12GS is/was in the pipeline. Have a closer look at this picture from Akrapoviç, basically selling the endpipe for the DOHC model.
Now this at least proves beyond doubt that a new switchgear was developed. Question is why it wasn't introduced with the DOHC model.
Perhaps because of what seems to be standard for BMW : teething problems (see K1300 series).
Anyhow, this may very well be the final current model update before the next boxer generation enters the market.
Or BMW may reserve the new switchgear for the next generation. We'll see.
... a new layout for all switchgear on R12GS is/was in the pipeline. Have a closer look at this picture from Akrapoviç, basically selling the endpipe for the DOHC model.
Now this at least proves beyond doubt that a new switchgear was developed. Question is why it wasn't introduced with the DOHC model.
Perhaps because of what seems to be standard for BMW : teething problems (see K1300 series).
Anyhow, this may very well be the final current model update before the next boxer generation enters the market.
Or BMW may reserve the new switchgear for the next generation.
We'll see.I've the Stebel Nautilus air horn on mine. On the 2010 bike it fits just onto the left/right brackets under the bar wich goes to the instrument bit. I've added a "tail support" to the Nautilus (small L bracket and a hose clamp), although it felt rock solid on just the one Nautilus mounting
As for ease of use, I installed a push button as per this thread (so i've non ESA, and added the button)
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=566517
If you do this (button that is) some additional advice:
You will need small torx drivers (think it is T7 & T10). I had down to T10 and thought i was smart by dremelling a cut into the T7 ones, so i could get them out with screwdriver, which worked until i got to the last one which is sunk into the plastic..
The switch, and wiring is there allright. However the wiring does NOT continue into loom going into the bike. So you do need to cut / solder another wire onto it. Plenty of room to get the wire out next to the original loom
Switch grounds to earth - so with a relay you can use it for anything
Pushbutton: I made my own from bit of electrical pipe, and 15mm dia glue-on "feets" i had at home, and spray painted that
The buttons have 3 "coded" guides (the three you can see on the pictures ). So you can not switch the "Info" and "ABS" ones, and you can not use a spare of these for the new one. You can also not cut the guides, as there is an opening on the side, which when depressed, goes over the wire outlet. Thus the button should not rotate and requires a guide. I just dremmeled cuts in the electrical pipe
so far, i prefer the new push button over the original horn switch
on mine. On the 2010 bike it fits just onto the left/right brackets under the bar wich goes to the instrument bit. I've added a "tail support" to the Nautilus (small L bracket and a hose clamp), although it felt rock solid on just the one Nautilus mounting As for ease of use, I installed a push button as per this thread (so i've non ESA, and added the button)
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=566517
If you do this (button that is) some additional advice:
You will need small torx drivers (think it is T7 & T10). I had down to T10 and thought i was smart by dremelling a cut into the T7 ones, so i could get them out with screwdriver, which worked until i got to the last one which is sunk into the plastic..
The switch, and wiring is there allright. However the wiring does NOT continue into loom going into the bike. So you do need to cut / solder another wire onto it. Plenty of room to get the wire out next to the original loom
Switch grounds to earth - so with a relay you can use it for anything
Pushbutton: I made my own from bit of electrical pipe, and 15mm dia glue-on "feets" i had at home, and spray painted that
The buttons have 3 "coded" guides (the three you can see on the pictures ). So you can not switch the "Info" and "ABS" ones, and you can not use a spare of these for the new one. You can also not cut the guides, as there is an opening on the side, which when depressed, goes over the wire outlet. Thus the button should not rotate and requires a guide. I just dremmeled cuts in the electrical pipe
so far, i prefer the new push button over the original horn switch
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