Got a 2008 1200GS Adv today

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for a test ride................:augie

It's the first time I've ridden any 1200Adv and I last rode a 1200GS when they were launched, way back in 2004:rob

This one was a 2008 model with 1100 miles on it and all the toys ABS/TCS/ESA - the kitchen sink

So what did i think??

Well...........
It felt lighter than my 1150Adv and was lower - I could get my knees bent and feet flat on the floor with the stock high seat on it.

The bike is well balanced and was easy to move around at low speed and whilst waiting at junctions/lights it was easy to balance on the spot without having to put a foot down to steady yourself

Clutch was smooth and so was the gearbox, very much improved

Power - didn't feel as grunty as a 1150/1100GS and power was more linear (guess that's the lighter flywheel) - but the bike is fast - much faster than the earlier GS incarnations and coupled with the smoother gearbox, it was easy to hook up that power.

Seat - Felt ok to start with, but numb bum set in after 40 mins:mad:

Screen - very good - but no better than an MRA Vario (except it didn't flex)

Brakes - Front were awesome, aboslutely awesome BUT rear was non existent and I checked to see if anything was connected to the rear pedal :augie as it was truly appalling for low speed town work in traffic

Bars - felt neutral and well placed - no need for risers for me

Stability and Handling - the bike was easy to throw around and was stable at low and high speed. Handling was good with the suspenders tracking the ground well and bike felt planted. Cornering was ok, but front felt a tad vague in some tight bends (guess i'm used to a lardy 1150Adv with well set Ohlins)

Overall - nice bike - but the crunch for me was that I felt from the 'armchair like' riding position I could have just been riding a K1200LT SE and not a more hooliganesque GS Adv

It is quite possibly the natural progression from a 1150Adv - but the ongoing rubbish with the build and reliability make it a show stopper for me at present, as does the £12100 fully loaded price tag - which is outrageous for a motorcycle with such a poor and obviously reliable track record for leaving its owners stranded.

It's not that I can't afford one and i'm knocking it for sour grapes - I could afford one, however I choose not to buy one
 
Now then Johnnyboxter,

You love it dont you :thumb just winding us 1200 owners up.

Andy
 
now this is funny- a review of a bike the guy doesnt even own
funny:jibber

No..............

A review/impression of a bike I rode

Who needs to own a bike, to say what they thought about it

Not many bike mags own the bikes they review.............:blast

Admittedly........... the 1200Adv is a very good bike to ride

I did love the way the bike rode and despite the unreliability worries, I may have to give it some due consideration in the future
 
No..............

A review/impression of a bike I rode

Who needs to own a bike, to say what they thought about it

Not many bike mags own the bikes they review.............:blast

Admittedly........... the 1200Adv is a very good bike to ride

I did love the way the bike rode and despite the unreliability worries, I may have to give it some due consideration in the future
Why bother with the bike Johnny?

So many roads...........So little time......

2005 R1150GS Adv
1999 R1100GS
2007 G650 XChallenge

You already have the best one...
 
Admittedly........... the 1200Adv is a very good bike to ride

I did love the way the bike rode and despite the unreliability worries, I may have to give it some due consideration in the future

Some of us have known for a long,long time that you were in the closet :rolleyes:
It won't be long and you'll succumb :augie
 
Why bother with the bike Johnny?

So many roads...........So little time......

2005 R1150GS Adv
1999 R1100GS
2007 G650 XChallenge

You already have the best one...


True.........Richie

I did 1600 miles on it last week in Germany, in the Eifels with Micky

It was faultless and rode very well........I even had to wait for other riders on 1200Adv's and 1200GS's at some junctions. The 1100GS gave them a clean pair of heels in the twisties

It didn't disgrace itself on the motorway either, pulling 120mph on some stretches..................but in a drag race it would be left by all 1200GS's for sure

A Dutch rider in Bad Munstereifel (on a 1200GS, funnily enough) wanted to buy the 1100GS, as soon as he saw how clean and lovely it was.

I tried it because I could, it was on the test ride sheet.

I don't normally ride bikes that I'm not buying.................oh dear:blast


Humvee...................they are good bikes and you're right as a rider's bike, they are fast and good handling - but a well ridden 1150Adv takes some catching:augie
 
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It is quite possibly the natural progression from a 1150Adv - but the ongoing rubbish with the build and reliability make it a show stopper for me at present, as does the £12100 fully loaded price tag - which is outrageous for a motorcycle with such a poor and obviously reliable track record for leaving its owners stranded.

Where do you get the information about the poor reliability record of the 1200? From internet forums? If so, then reading the same forums means the 1150 and 1100's are no better on the reliability front than the 1200. Of course, if you are privy to a more reliable source of information we look forward to seeing it:rolleyes:
 
Bob,

Take a look at the 1200 section

Talk to the experienced mechanics at the BMW dealers

Speak to the recovery agents who pick up broken ones

See the size of the scrap parts bin with the warranty replaced parts from 1200's (all types)

Tour with some 1200 riders - See the parts they carry on tour - EWS rings and fuel pump relays

Need I go on....................all things mechanical break down, but some things breakdown more than others

I really like the 1200 Adv ride.....................but the ownership prospect may drive me insane
 
That sounded like a pretty well reasoned and balanced comparison from here :thumb no axes to grind that I could detect. :nenau

Im in a position with my 12 where its getting near 40K and Im half thinking of changing. I've had my share of trouble and put that with the 12K price tag of a new ADV or over 10 for a standard 12 and I'm afraid its not a game I'm willing to play to play anymore.

10c :thumb
 
Johnny,

You know as well as I do that what you see in the forums is the worst of it. People don't come on here to say their bike is running fine with no problems, they usually come on when they have an issue.

You mention the size of the scrap bin at the dealers, but I bet it was just as full of 1150 and 1100 parts when BMW were making those. Including the bevel box that failed on your 1150 Adventure at about the 5000 mile mark. I seem to remember you actually deleted the thread you started about that failure:rolleyes:

As for touring on the 1200, I've done a few trips on my own now with no issues whatsoever, without the need to carry the fuel pump relay or a spare EWS ring. Do 1100 and 1150 owners go on tour without any spares? I've heard of some taking spare bevel box bearings for example.

My own 1200 has been as reliable as the 1150 and 1100 GS's that preceded it.

If you go back to a few years ago before the 1200 was available the pages of this forum were full of the tales of woe of 1100 and 1150 owners relating the various problems they were having.
 
Johnny,


You mention the size of the scrap bin at the dealers, but I bet it was just as full of 1150 and 1100 parts when BMW were making those. Including the bevel box that failed on your 1150 Adventure at about the 5000 mile mark. I seem to remember you actually deleted the thread you started about that failure:rolleyes:

True, you do get the worst of it on forums/mags

My 1150Adv never suffered a failure on the bevelbox, at 500 miles some play......... possibly could be detected. The dealer changed it as precaution.

In fact he ordered 2 new bevel boxes and picked the one with another ball bearing in the bearing case and fitted that, rejecting the other back into BMW stock. The 1150 rear bevel bearing cases come with different amounts of ball bearings in the bearing (+/- 1) depending on the bearing supplier..............probably little known by most

Fine ever since

I'm glad you've not had a prob with your 1200, Bob

Some have and some haven't

All my 1100GS's (2) and 1150 GS's (4) have been fine

Both my GS airheads were not very reliable:nenau
 
I have to agree with JB on this one. The 1200 ios a faster bike and much lighter, ther gearbox is very nice although my 1150 seems to have a pretty slick gearbox for an 1150.

I had one of the very first 1200's (April 2004) and it never let me down as the mod to the petrol gauge had been done by Motorrad Central before I picked it up.

It never let me down apart from once when the battery was completely dead but charged up again no probs.

My R850GS was 100% reliable and I could not fault it, my R1150GSA SE had engine work done on Warranty as I thought the big ends had gone, it was in fact excessive float in the rocker shafts.

I still agree with Jonny thugh that in comparisson there have been far and away more breakdowns with the 1200's than the 1150s and I actually think the 1150 is a far superior bike. My HP2 is always letting me down unless I keep it on trickle charge and even now the Optimate is showing "Fault" so its time to fit another battery (The 3rd).

Should something happen top my 1150 I would be in the market for another not a 1200 I may even dabble outside of the Mark as I like the Stelvio and the Aprillias - hopefully I'll be n the 1150 though as I can't fault it.
 
Yawn........................:rolleyes:


Bob,

Take a look at the 1200 section

Talk to the experienced mechanics at the BMW dealers

Speak to the recovery agents who pick up broken ones

See the size of the scrap parts bin with the warranty replaced parts from 1200's (all types)

Tour with some 1200 riders - See the parts they carry on tour - EWS rings and fuel pump relays

Need I go on....................all things mechanical break down, but some things breakdown more than others

I really like the 1200 Adv ride.....................but the ownership prospect may drive me insane
 
Yawn........................:rolleyes:

Double yawn, Wully:blast:eek::rolleyes::rolleyes:

http://www.ukgser.com/forums/showthread.php?t=149729

2008 1200GS Died Today

1100 miles, I had the bike in March and since then it has had a flat battery (replaced) and today it just cut out 18 miles from home. It restarted and then cut out again so I phoned BMW emergency. Whilst waiting for them, I started the bike again which seemed to keep going and got home with no other problems.
Wondered if anyone else had similar problems? I am beginning to not have much confidence in the bike any more.
 
Both my GS airheads were not very reliable:nenau

The second one didn't get into 3rd gear more than twice and that wasn't down to the clutch or the gearbox, the rider was too busy asset stripping :augie

Now if he wanted a definitive GS in his locker....

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Well in my opinion, for what it's worth, the 1200GS-A is an absolutely crackin' bike :thumb

You get two years warranty and recovery JB so my advice would be, as ever my friend.... to shut your good eye and go for it :eek:

You know you want one ;)

If I was strong and healthy, macho and butch, and liked looking at myself in shop windows I'd still have mine :augie

:beerjug:
 


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