GS dodgy sidestand?

[MondoRich]

As my foot was on the left peg it fell to the left

 

[JohnnyBoxer]

Done over 11,000 miles on my two LCs and haven't given the side-stand a more than a moments second thought - I am just careful where I park and make sure the stand is fully forward, just like I have done with every bike I've owned.

After I park my GS on the side stand, I walk around the back of it and give the carrier a tug backwards, just to make sure the stand is fully in place - also it goes without saying, never park a bike on even a slight down slope.

Exactly, succinct and to the point

Perhaps some of the fellows who have let their bike roll off the sidestand, ought to go back for a CBT refresher

 

[Engineer]

I always cringe when I see people mount a bike using the left footpeg - I half expect the stand to snap from its mounting - it is just soooooooo wrong!

 

[younger06]

I always cringe when I see people mount a bike using the left footpeg - I half expect the stand to snap from its mounting - it is just soooooooo wrong!

It's the only way I can get on the bloody thing!! (29" not very flexible legs)

 

[roamer]

Interesting point about the esa needing to be above normal ride height for the bike to have enough lean,
It must run lower than the non esa as my bike leans plenty even with a Bigfoot on it
still leave in gear though, that's the parking brake isn't it,
the multistrada stand was very upright,,

 

[DC]

yes I'm thinking if the ESA is left in soft, IE the bikes lower to the ground, the bikes lean angle will not be as much as if it was in Hard , with pillion ! in this mode the bike suspension rises, so the bikes higher meaning a longer lean angle !

wonder if a lower suspension model has the same length of stand? that must be more or less vertical when parked up !

 

[Deleted account 181015003]

The problem is when a owner changes bike to the LC they park it in the exact same place on their drive that the last 20 bikes have been parked in with no issue while opening/closing the garage door the drive looks flat to the eye they turn round to see their new pride and joy roll forward of the stand in to a heap on the floor all the other bikes they have has have been fine.

The leaving it in gear is a work round but most of the topples are a result of the owners pushing the bikes out of the garage turning round to see it just fall over the stand is shite compared to the last generation of GS and the one before and before see a pattern they keep adding more toys to the bikes and fail to get the basics right

Maybe touratwat can develop a tank mounted spirit level to let the owners know when the ground is not totally level or BWM can just make a stand as good as the older models

 

[matchbox]

This may seem extreme but if you are worried about this 'problem', why not remove the stand and file a small amount away from the stand where it stops against the frame? This would let it project forward a little further and so be more secure. Note I said 'if you are worried', I'm not. And no, you should'nt need to consider this on a £15k machine...

 

[stephen.stallebrass]

I'll try and say this as tersely as I can...

I think everyone accepts that there is some degree of human error involved here. However, if all variable are the same and the only one changed is the bike, it's hard to argue that there isn't some kind of a design oversight. And if the flaw exists on a bike with a large price tag, often £15k+, that goes over causing potentially hundreds of £s in damage, some degree of dissatisfaction is justified and some degree of venting here is expected and indeed perhaps even warranted.

 

[thumperbob2002]

I have had a couple of gs,s and they all do that. The main problem with the old GS stand was that the bike was too angled on the stand and a real buggar to get off it for us short in the leg. The new one is miles better for that but the bike is deffo more upright. I'm always careful but am more concerned with parking it on a camber so that it's impossible to get off the stand when on it.
I mostly get on the bike whilst it's on the stand. If it can take the weight of the monster gs it'll take little old me.


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[WindyChuffer]

User error. Leave it in first gear at all times when on side stand. Simples.

 

[Rockred]

I think that the side stand is too long on the WC , with the stand down it is too near the vertical for my liking , on my TC the bike definitely leaned over more.

 

[Engineer]

These types of threads really beggar belief "my bike fell of the sidestand because I was a total numpty" now who can I blame, FFS get a life!

 

[Deleted account 181015003]

Who would have thought Engineer comes along denies there is any sort of problem the stand is perfect the owners have all turned into numptys since upgrading to the lc.

Now wheres neutral crunch clank its somewhere in the box forget it just turn it off in 1st at least it wont fall over when the stand tries to tuck

 

[roamer]

Is it possible the esa is settling down causing movement,
Does it default to a certain position when switched off,
Just wondering as the being upright and other concerns may be related,
I only leave mine in gear in case some f,,ktard leans or walks into it, only the basis that major cities are having problems with buses knocking pedestrians down,

 

[Engineer]

Who would have thought Engineer comes along denies there is any sort of problem the stand is perfect the owners have all turned into numptys since upgrading to the lc.

Now wheres neutral crunch clank its somewhere in the box forget it just turn it off in 1st at least it wont fall over when the stand tries to tuck

Nothing is perfect which is why we sometimes have to use just a little ingenuity instead - I doubt that you are perfect either, so who are you going to blame for that?

 

[pistole]

for heaven's sakes , park in gear. Thats a very basic motorcycling skill.

if you can't learn to park in gear , how do you learn to do the other hard stuff ?

 

[JimVonBaden]

No problems with my 2015 model. If you are parking on an incline, put the bike in gear.

Same here. Tens of thousands of miles on R1200GS bikes with no sidestand issues. The Wethead is certainly no different.

Jim

 

[JimVonBaden]

not so in my experience.

if your bike rolls of its sidestand , its YOUR fault.

personal responsibility is tough

Exactly. They bitch that it is too short, then bitch it is too long, all the while it is about paying attention to where and how you park!

Jim

 

[JimVonBaden]

The problem is when a owner changes bike to the LC they park it in the exact same place on their drive that the last 20 bikes have been parked in with no issue while opening/closing the garage door the drive looks flat to the eye they turn round to see their new pride and joy roll forward of the stand in to a heap on the floor all the other bikes they have has have been fine.

The leaving it in gear is a work round but most of the topples are a result of the owners pushing the bikes out of the garage turning round to see it just fall over the stand is shite compared to the last generation of GS and the one before and before see a pattern they keep adding more toys to the bikes and fail to get the basics right

Maybe touratwat can develop a tank mounted spirit level to let the owners know when the ground is not totally level or BWM can just make a stand as good as the older models

And how many bitched about the last generation of bike having the sidestand too short? Some added as much as an inch spacer to make it more upright.

Jim