GSA. None starter

steve1300

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Turns over but don't start.
Done the fuel relay unit and put a live feed to it.
Battery on a optimate as well.
Still won't start.
Fuel in the tank ??????
 
Handlebar kill switch?
Or any one of the above faulty?
 
Steve

I had something similar a while ago on a 2007 GSA. I tried all the usual expensive bits, then put some more fuel in as it was low but the fuel light was not on, it started after a few turns of the engine. It seems that the lift pump on the RH side of the tank may have run dry and would not get enough fuel up to the pump so would not start. Well worth a try.

Ian
 
Check you have fuel and a spark that's the first thing. Bike turns over so stand etc not stopping it from starting
 
Obviously check fuel first. To check you have a spark pull a main coil off and put an old spark plug in it and hold it on to the engine to earth the plug. Spin it over to see if there is a spark. You can move the plug away from the engine and it should still jump a gap of about 3-4 inches if its strong.
 
I have put a fuel pump and a new lift pump on and I did wonder if that might be to problem but it will run on a gsa with the right hand lift pump not working but it must have a good lot of petrol in the tank.
I will go with this and fill it to moz.
 
I have had the problem with it when I leave it a few weeks but it will start after some time but this time no go.
Last time I got it going the next day went out and started first time. But now I've left it it's a no go
 
It's showing 12.6 and turning it over, how ever I did think that this battery has done well at 5 years but I have had 2 battery's on this bike in 9 years
 
Worth trying, if the bike is not used regularly the battery will not be happy! I've had problems with batteries that on e face of it seemed OK.
 
Check the fuel pipe on the left hand side as you sit on the bike on top of the tank where the FPC is its on like a push down clip.mine uncliped once wouldn't start for love nor money pushed it back on and!
Ding dang do way he went
Just a thought
 
If the engine turns over happily but don't start then check:

Fuel in tank - there should be enough. 5 - 10 litres would suffice.
Fuel delivery - Unplug one of the pipes after the pump and turn on the ignition, fuel should squirt in a steady stream. Protect your eyes here.
- if no fuel flow then check pump and breather hoses are not kinked and also check for obstruction. If the tank has been off, lift it and check the routing of the pipes so that it is not trapped where the pipe is pinched closed.
- the pump should prime when ignition is switched on.
- check the pump connections, the fuel pump is energised from the engine control module.

Spark - It has been detailed above. If no spark then follow the ignition circuit and check the connections and switches.
Ignition switch
Gear position switch - if you have neutral indication then ignore for now.
Side stand switch - check and clean, you should have continuity between 2 contacts with open circuit to the other contact depending if the side stand is up or down. Cycle the side stand to check operation.
Clutch switch - 2 contacts so you should have open circuit in the released position and closed circuit when the lever is pulled.
Stop/Start switch - the switch should not allow any current flow when in the off position. Make sure it is in the normal position and press the button. Ignore for now because we know the engine turns over.

If you have disconnected the battery then reset the TPS. Also if the engine turns over rapidly then the battery current delivery is good. If it struggles and the Optimate doesn't charge it any more and you have a healthy 12.6V on the Multimeter then the battery needs to be replaced. It is the current that is important when starting the bike. Voltage will give you an indication of the health of the charging circuit.
 
How old are the coils? The original black painted coils fail over time and tend to fail very close together. If they smell of hot insulation change the pair.

I bought one new coil (stainless case type) and had the other side (original black) stop working on the way home from the bike shop. The later stainless type are much better.
 
All sorted now. Running a treat.
New fuel regulator, new battery , more fuel in the tank, still no joy.
NEW PLUGS STARTED FIRST TIME. LOL
 
That's how my failing coils started (or didn't). Check the coils for hot insulation smell and paint colour.
 


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