I haven’t delved into how this works yet but I have a simple question.
Does the GSAP influence the clutch engagement in anyway on downshifts?
Does the GSAP influence the clutch engagement in anyway on downshifts?
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Could you be a bit more succinct.....
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All I can say is it is software and hardware controlled................
Yeah but I want to know about the hardware on downshifts, one cant to a proper 'blip' with the clutch still connecting the engine to the wheels via the gearbox, clearly.
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I do not know any more than that, but just found this, so credit to the OP
The gear shift pro is both software and hardware. Essentially it is computer controlled but must make changes within the gearbox and clutch to work.
On the up shift pressure on the gear pedal disengages the clutch and momentarily closes power to allow a gear change. You can use the cluthc too of you want and below 4000 revs it is a better option I think. On the downshift, close throttle and press down, engine blips and lower gear selected. Works every time when moving and is a great feature - more useful than the upshift for me. I finds the upshift best when moving fast. Last week when touring in France it was great about 100kmh when on the main routes. Clutches changes up to 130kmh and then cruise control - very nice and relaxed....
. The downshift was also bliss when approaching the twists. Goes like - see bend - appraise situation- close throttle, tap down ( whilst hearing engine noise blip ) and then roll into bend..accelerate onto straight and repeat on next bend.. brings smile to the face
I do not know any more than that, but just found this, so credit to the OP
The gear shift pro is both software and hardware. Essentially it is computer controlled but must make changes within the gearbox and clutch to work.
On the up shift pressure on the gear pedal disengages the clutch and momentarily closes power to allow a gear change. You can use the cluthc too of you want and below 4000 revs it is a better option I think. On the downshift, close throttle and press down, engine blips and lower gear selected. Works every time when moving and is a great feature - more useful than the upshift for me. I finds the upshift best when moving fast. Last week when touring in France it was great about 100kmh when on the main routes. Clutches changes up to 130kmh and then cruise control - very nice and relaxed....
Hmmmm - not sure I believe that, clutch disengage on up shift, no clutch disengage and blip on downshift????????
Hey, come on, I had to add the ... to make the post long enough.
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Does it really matter as long as it works................
There's no clutch disengagement either way. If you're really cute, you can blip the throttle on pretty much any gearbox doing a clutchless down-change. As for upshift, all it's doing is killing the power momentarily to unload the transmission, exactly as you would with the throttle doing a clutch-less change on any other bike. This isn't a Triumph slickshift-type affair, tha' knows.
That’s how I thought it worked but ‘a blip’ to me is a deliberate addition of significant revs using the throttle with the clutch lever pulled in - the ‘blip’ you describe is just unloading the driving force from the gear dogs in the same way as you do clutches up changes - the engine is then ‘forced’ to step change its speed as the new gear goes home. This just feels potentially so mechanically unsympathetic that I don’t bother using the GSAP on my new bike.
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You should try it, I mix and match, sometimes I use it, when I remember I have it..............
<<This just feels potentially so mechanically unsympathetic that I don’t bother using the GSAP on my new bike.>>
In which case, you're missing a treat. It can be a bit clunky in the very low gears - 1-2, 2-3, but works very well up and down beyond that. I'll even use it downwards from 2 to 1 just before I come to a halt.
In which case, you're missing a treat. It can be a bit clunky in the very low gears - 1-2, 2-3, but works very well up and down beyond that. I'll even use it downwards from 2 to 1 just before I come to a halt.
You should try it, I mix and match, sometimes I use it, when I remember I have it..............
I have tried the GSAP a few times but don’t like it much - much smoother with ‘clutch and blip’ on down shifts, manual clutchless upshifts are as smooth when ‘goin fer it’.
My new RT is seamless using it in both directions, last years was a bit clunky as Chazzy says.
I love it!
I love it!
Is that the works bike Shaun, or replacing the GSA?
