H7 GEN 4 CREE LED MAIN HEADLIGHT BULBS THOUGHTS

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Anyone tried these in place of the H7 bulbs either in your bike or a car?? Do they really make a difference?

I am more thinking of it for the car as after replacing the radiator meant full front off the car and ever since the headlights on their high set position are just not high enough so thought that a better brighter beam may help. Not ideal but i cant for the life of me get them to raised anymore.

If decent might try on the bike.
 
How will fitting an (apparently) brighter H7 bulb into a car where the lights are incorrectly set help?

Start by sorting out your car's lights properly and only then start to ponder about other bulbs. Just fitting apparently brighter bulbs to a vehicle who's lights are badly set-up is just an inconsiderate aggravation to other drivers and pedestrians. But hey, you're a biker, so why do you care? Go for it, mate.

PS You are in the 1200 GS Hexhead section, with a question that relates almost entirely to your motorcar, its ill-adjusted lights and H7 bulbs. Try the four-wheel section or a forum devoted to your type of vehicle. Who knows, you may even get some advice on how to fix your bodged lights... Avoiding the need to spend money on new bulbs in the first place and avoiding your dazzling other road users, needlessly.
 
Wapping said:
How will fitting an (apparently) brighter H7 bulb into a car where the lights are incorrectly set help?

Start by sorting out your car's lights properly and only then start to ponder about other bulbs. Just fitting apparently brighter bulbs to a vehicle who's lights are badly set-up is just an inconsiderate aggravation to other drivers and pedestrians. But hey, you're a biker, so why do you care? Go for it, mate.

PS You are in the 1200 GS Hexhead section, with a question that relates almost entirely to your motorcar, its ill-adjusted lights and H7 bulbs. Try the four-wheel section or a forum devoted to your type of vehicle. Who knows, you may even get some advice on how to fix your bodged lights... Avoiding the need to spend money on new bulbs in the first place and avoiding your dazzling other road users, needlessly.
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While I agree with your post about fixing a problem rather than masking it I cannot see how a headlamp adjusted too low could dazzle anyone. JJH
 
Brighter bulbs aimed too low will over-light the foreground making it even harder to see the distance. Sort out your headlights then get bulbs if you still need them.
A thread just three down from this one says the new LED H7 is very good.

PS ask the light aiming question on Fiat Forum and stand well back from the computer.
 
You will discover that with most of these LED halogen replacements, that whilst they produce a lot of nice white light there may well be a poor beam pattern. Light may be sent all over the place. Producing a good (and legal) beam pattern is not all down to the reflector in the headlamp. A very important part of the production process in manufacturing halogen headlight bulbs is getting the filament aligned accurately so that the reflector can do its job.
 
The GS headlight is built for H7 halogen bulbs but the Les Wassal HID burners work fine. The dip cut off is ever so slightly fuzzy but there is no dazzle.
So if an HID is ok with large volume emitter (compared to a halogen pin point filament), it should not be beyond the wit of engineers to build an LED bulb to do the job.
 
The first page on that thread goes back to early 2014 so LED bulbs will have moved on considerably by now. The latest seem to have a horse tail style heat sink. I assume that needs to trail out of the lamp cover to have an adequate cooling effect.
 
Right, but they developed the design underways and they say their LED fits now completely inside the front light housing of the hexhead, both for high beam and dip beam. People seem to have fitted it without problem (check on the last pages of the thread on Adventure rider).
When ordering, one seem to have to tick the option for the R1200GS which, if I understand right, makes that they do a slightly modified shape so that it fits the tight lamp housing.

http://www.cyclopsadventuresports.com/H7-3000-lumen-LED-Headlight-bulb_p_86.html

I have not tried myself but I am tempted to order one.
 
Mr K said:
Put a few sacks of sand in the boot.

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What sand? There is coarse sand (nearly grit, really) but I have read about very fine sand, available only from one distant Polynesian island, gathered by moonlight. It's got to be the dog's figs of ballast.
 
Cheers for the positive and negative comments. Car just passed its mot so no issues being caused to anyone else. I have attempted to raise them up no joy. So tonight fitted a set of hid units a mate bought off eBay for £20 much better and nobody flashed so must not be too annoying to other road users.

So not sure if the standard reflectors reflect better with the brighter hid 6000k units or what but it truly is night and day over the standard H7 bulbs.

Might invest in a set at £20 can't go wrong really. Will make sure and keep a set of bulbs in the glove box in case though. Might also give it a go on the bike.


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The GS TC blows more bulbs than any other bikes I've ever owned, maybe LED would solve that issue?
 
Mine has properly white 5000K Les Wassal HID on main and dip. No filament to blow and the ballasts run cool so a reliable and effective system.
IMO 6000K is too blue and wastes light energy that human eyes can't see. They can actually look less bright than the same lumens at lower light temperature.
 
Bendy toy said:
Mine has properly white 5000K Les Wassal HID on main and dip. No filament to blow and the ballasts run cool so a reliable and effective system.
IMO 6000K is too blue and wastes light energy that human eyes can't see. They can actually look less bright than the same lumens at lower light temperature.
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I've got 6,000 k bulbs on both my dip and spotlights and imho they are not blue in the slightest, they are listed as the nearest to whitelight you can get,
 
gazza12adv said:
I've got 6,000 k bulbs on both my dip and spotlights and imho they are not blue in the slightest, they are listed as the nearest to whitelight you can get,
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I have a pair of LED spots that are supposed to be 6000K. They look blue compared to the Wassall HIDs which look very white at 5000K. The the far distance the LEDs fill out where the main beam doesn't reach. But the two 30watt LEDs are not quite as piercingly effective as the single 30watt HID. The reason can only be a significant percentage of the LED light is just that bit too blue - just the wrong side of what my eyes can register.

The numerous discussions on various forums about HIDs and now LEDs all say that 6000K is too high for fully effective lighting. The HIDs (and now LEDs) will always look brighter than halogen because a 30W HID makes 300% more light than a 50W halogen.

The consensus seems to be that 6000K looks fab in the car park but 5000K lights the road a whole lot better. Maybe Les can tell us his wisdom on the subject.
 
4600-5k is definately the way to go for quality of light. I have all my light in this and it is pure white. Standard hid on cars are 4300-4600k
 
Wilsdorf said:
The GS TC blows more bulbs than any other bikes I've ever owned, maybe LED would solve that issue?
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Mine doesn't - Only needed two new dipped beam bulbs in 35k miles (and one of those was replaced under warranty). I don't think that's at all bad, bearing in mind the thing is permanently "on". Better than pretty much any bike I've ever owned.
 
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