I've tried that before, and it worked but when you go to ride off mine comes on.
H7 LED Main Beam
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Bendy toy
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I don't see the point of faffing about to switch the headlight off. The bike is more visible with dipped beam and two spots, so I always run with all three on.
The issue I've always had with halogen bulbs or Wassal HIDs is the lack of angular separation between dip beam and main beam. Set the headlight t give a good main beam range and you will dazzle other road users when you switch to dip beam. Its obviously a lot better with HIDs (or I guess the latest LEDs), but setting the dip beam to a non dazzle angle and you will never get full benefit from the main beam.
My HID gives three times the light that I had from the old halogen. it's great but it's dip beam only on unlit roads is comfortable only when there are cat's eyes. Try it on a C road and you'll be down to 40mph or less unless you put an HID into the main beam.
Halogen main beam with HID dip is all but useless. The weedy main beam is drowned but the brightness of the dip spread. You know the main beam is on because the blue lamp on the dash tells you it's on. I would expect the LED dips to be the same.
The issue I've always had with halogen bulbs or Wassal HIDs is the lack of angular separation between dip beam and main beam. Set the headlight t give a good main beam range and you will dazzle other road users when you switch to dip beam. Its obviously a lot better with HIDs (or I guess the latest LEDs), but setting the dip beam to a non dazzle angle and you will never get full benefit from the main beam.
My HID gives three times the light that I had from the old halogen. it's great but it's dip beam only on unlit roads is comfortable only when there are cat's eyes. Try it on a C road and you'll be down to 40mph or less unless you put an HID into the main beam.
Halogen main beam with HID dip is all but useless. The weedy main beam is drowned but the brightness of the dip spread. You know the main beam is on because the blue lamp on the dash tells you it's on. I would expect the LED dips to be the same.
On the 1150 there were three small screws distributed around the high beam unit that allowed you to adjust the degree of separation. I experienced the same issues as you until I changed the high beam angle, after that the HID's were astounding. Have BM done away with those adjusters on the later bikes?
Early LED's were criticised for having poor long range penetration on high beam whereas my 1150 HID high beam was like a searchlight, incredible range. Has that aspect of the LED units been improved?
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I have some wee Hella Micro DE on my bike - tempted to put LED H3s in there if poss
If someone has the LED headlight (dipped) fitted, can they photograph it as seen (in the dark) from a riding position please.
I have HID's on mine but may want to change one or both to LEDs. Depends on how they perform.
I have HID's on mine but may want to change one or both to LEDs. Depends on how they perform.
I'm going to change to led from hid. I'll take some pictures when I get round to doing it.
I've fitted Hid h7r lights. Good light output with a nice cutoff, so not too much dazzle for oncoming traffic.
Hi Tufty. I put a few photos of Horizon H7 Generation 4 LEDs at night on this thread starting post # 13 to 21.
http://www.ukgser.com/forums/showthread.php/414202-A-good-question
OK todate my night time riding has been comuting and in dank conditions...
Tonight I got to spank the 1200 ADV TC down some favourite and dry back roads - Fitting an H7 LED in the main beam is very good, it's a must do IMO.
I'd just ridden the new AT with LED lights, the main on that was a little better but not by much...
Keeping halogen in the dip means you can keep the lights set higher than having a HID or LED in the dip which means your main beam which can't be set indepently keeps its range.
This is a relatively cheap and very effective way to gain very useable extra light....
Tonight I got to spank the 1200 ADV TC down some favourite and dry back roads - Fitting an H7 LED in the main beam is very good, it's a must do IMO.
I'd just ridden the new AT with LED lights, the main on that was a little better but not by much...
Keeping halogen in the dip means you can keep the lights set higher than having a HID or LED in the dip which means your main beam which can't be set indepently keeps its range.
This is a relatively cheap and very effective way to gain very useable extra light....
LED Discount
I have been looking for a while as my BMW LED auxiliary lights make my headlights look like glowing candles.
Was going to go down the Les Wassell route with HID but there a little pricey and since LED has come along way I thought id wait.
Found these and they are willing to give discounts also they do side light and indicator as well.
There £139.99 for 2. H7. Got the gen info below
H7 Philips LUXEON ZES Headlight Kit - 4000 Lumens
BRAND NEW 2016 EARLY RELEASE MODEL, EXCLUSIVE & GENUINE PRODUCT AVAILABLE ONLY AT HORIZON LEDS!
This H7 Philips LUMILEDs LUXEON ZES Headlight Conversion Kit is a high quality and latest in innovation upgrade kit specifically designed to work with the majority of motor vehicles which don't have Xenon’s or LEDs fitted from the factory, this Philips LUXEON ZES Conversion Kit produces an excellent, if not like for like beam pattern and up to seven times more light than a standard factory fitted halogen bulb, which of course gives you a much more phenomenal and safe driving experience at night as well as a modern look and feel!
This Brand New 2016 Model is EXCLUSIVE to Horizon LEDs and boasts GENUINE Philips LumiLED chip modules, these kits produce an excellent crisp light beam, which perfectly reflects road markings and signs thanks to an impressive output of 4000 Lumens per bulb. This improvement in light output, and crisp clear beam pattern also aids in reacting to potential hazards much sooner. As opposed to Xenon HID Kits, there is no lag/warm up time with these therefore you get an instant and maximum brightness at the touch of a button. This too makes it great for main beam and fog light conversions too.
What's more is that you can now change the beam pattern alignment & even the reversible base yourself, right from the comfort of your own home/garge/driveway! As default all of the Generation 5 kits come as 6500K fitted from the factory - as this is the most popular choice in todays aftermarket LED world as well as the most optimum for performance and visual styling!
For the first time ever this generation of LED Headlight have a total of 16 ZES LED chips made by Philips Lumileds Luxeon; imported from Europe! We have been through rigorous testing of these kits and have worked very closely with our supplier in order to get this right the first time round. Please dont be confused with cheaper alternatives which claim to have over 6000+ lumens, this is simply impossible. You may want to refer to the Philips website to see what exactly the LED chips are capable of - feel free to drop us a message for more information on this.
All our Philips LUMILEDS LUXEON ZES Headlight Conversion Kits use much lower power consumption than traditional halogen bulbs and contribute to saving energy as well as being environmentally friendly. These kits are designed to last an impressive 30,000+ hours.
In particular this brand new model has been designed for vehicles which have space and/or fitment problems within the vehicles headlight cluster. With its innovative fanless and reversible heatsink design this product is a lot smaller and fitment friendly even in the tightest of spaces, without the loss in lumens output! Also ideal for motorcycle users, which can purchase this kit individually at a discounted price by getting in touch with us.
Below are the key features of this Philips LUXEON ZES LED Headlight Kit: -
Colour Choice - out of the box in 6500k (Pure Xenon White)
OEM Fitment – designed to fit just as factory bulbs, no cutting or splicing any wiring looms.
Complete Kit - comes with x2 bulbs and x2 small LED drivers - thanks to the all in one design, ready to plug & play.
Response Time - quicker ON/OFF response compared to traditional bulbs, Xenons and standard SMD LEDs.
Light Output – market leading 4000 Lumens per each bulb, you cannot get higher than this guaranteed despite what you see on the web!
Adjustable Base - H7 base can be adjusted to ensure excellent beam focus for LH & RH drive vehicles.
Power & Efficiency – immense LED power from just 25W, along with 80% energy efficient savings.
Lifespan – 30,000+ hours, thanks to the high quality Europe imported Philips LUXEON ZES.
Technology - powered by x16 Philips Luxeon ZES Chips, by Philips Lumileds.
Waterproof - 100% waterproof, bulbs & wiring - can be submerged into water!
Cooling Technology - USA Imported Aluminium A380 with excellent thermal capabilities & innovative heat pipe, no more bulky fans!
Operating Temperatures - as little at -40°c and as high as +80°c.
Resistor/Circuit Technologies - components sourced from TDK & Texas Instruments for the electrical circuit.
Multi Fitment – can be used for anything with a H7, 12V-24V socket!
CANBUS Friendly – designed to work with 99% of CANBUS related vehicles & tested on 2015 Audi & BMW models.
Our Philips LUXEON & also Cree LED kits have been manufactured to the highest standards and quality, which involves UV cutting of the bulbs to prevent damage to your plastic lenses and even water submerge testing to make them not only water resistant but waterproof. These are very high quality LED kits and are not to be directly compared with cheaper alternatives mainly found on auction websites. 60% of our custom is from returning customers who have already tried and tested cheaper 'copies' from the web - especially auction and international sites.
This kit is also designed to work with vehicles, which have CANBUS systems and it has been specially designed for this purpose therefore it will not damage any of your vehicles electronic systems. Our digital ballasts and LED drivers have been exclusively manufactured with in built components and microprocessors, which allow 100% compatibility with any vehicle giving you the best looking OEM LED headlights at an affordable price without any error and warning messages.
I have been looking for a while as my BMW LED auxiliary lights make my headlights look like glowing candles.
Was going to go down the Les Wassell route with HID but there a little pricey and since LED has come along way I thought id wait.
Found these and they are willing to give discounts also they do side light and indicator as well.
There £139.99 for 2. H7. Got the gen info below
H7 Philips LUXEON ZES Headlight Kit - 4000 Lumens
BRAND NEW 2016 EARLY RELEASE MODEL, EXCLUSIVE & GENUINE PRODUCT AVAILABLE ONLY AT HORIZON LEDS!
This H7 Philips LUMILEDs LUXEON ZES Headlight Conversion Kit is a high quality and latest in innovation upgrade kit specifically designed to work with the majority of motor vehicles which don't have Xenon’s or LEDs fitted from the factory, this Philips LUXEON ZES Conversion Kit produces an excellent, if not like for like beam pattern and up to seven times more light than a standard factory fitted halogen bulb, which of course gives you a much more phenomenal and safe driving experience at night as well as a modern look and feel!
This Brand New 2016 Model is EXCLUSIVE to Horizon LEDs and boasts GENUINE Philips LumiLED chip modules, these kits produce an excellent crisp light beam, which perfectly reflects road markings and signs thanks to an impressive output of 4000 Lumens per bulb. This improvement in light output, and crisp clear beam pattern also aids in reacting to potential hazards much sooner. As opposed to Xenon HID Kits, there is no lag/warm up time with these therefore you get an instant and maximum brightness at the touch of a button. This too makes it great for main beam and fog light conversions too.
What's more is that you can now change the beam pattern alignment & even the reversible base yourself, right from the comfort of your own home/garge/driveway! As default all of the Generation 5 kits come as 6500K fitted from the factory - as this is the most popular choice in todays aftermarket LED world as well as the most optimum for performance and visual styling!
For the first time ever this generation of LED Headlight have a total of 16 ZES LED chips made by Philips Lumileds Luxeon; imported from Europe! We have been through rigorous testing of these kits and have worked very closely with our supplier in order to get this right the first time round. Please dont be confused with cheaper alternatives which claim to have over 6000+ lumens, this is simply impossible. You may want to refer to the Philips website to see what exactly the LED chips are capable of - feel free to drop us a message for more information on this.
All our Philips LUMILEDS LUXEON ZES Headlight Conversion Kits use much lower power consumption than traditional halogen bulbs and contribute to saving energy as well as being environmentally friendly. These kits are designed to last an impressive 30,000+ hours.
In particular this brand new model has been designed for vehicles which have space and/or fitment problems within the vehicles headlight cluster. With its innovative fanless and reversible heatsink design this product is a lot smaller and fitment friendly even in the tightest of spaces, without the loss in lumens output! Also ideal for motorcycle users, which can purchase this kit individually at a discounted price by getting in touch with us.
Below are the key features of this Philips LUXEON ZES LED Headlight Kit: -
Colour Choice - out of the box in 6500k (Pure Xenon White)
OEM Fitment – designed to fit just as factory bulbs, no cutting or splicing any wiring looms.
Complete Kit - comes with x2 bulbs and x2 small LED drivers - thanks to the all in one design, ready to plug & play.
Response Time - quicker ON/OFF response compared to traditional bulbs, Xenons and standard SMD LEDs.
Light Output – market leading 4000 Lumens per each bulb, you cannot get higher than this guaranteed despite what you see on the web!
Adjustable Base - H7 base can be adjusted to ensure excellent beam focus for LH & RH drive vehicles.
Power & Efficiency – immense LED power from just 25W, along with 80% energy efficient savings.
Lifespan – 30,000+ hours, thanks to the high quality Europe imported Philips LUXEON ZES.
Technology - powered by x16 Philips Luxeon ZES Chips, by Philips Lumileds.
Waterproof - 100% waterproof, bulbs & wiring - can be submerged into water!
Cooling Technology - USA Imported Aluminium A380 with excellent thermal capabilities & innovative heat pipe, no more bulky fans!
Operating Temperatures - as little at -40°c and as high as +80°c.
Resistor/Circuit Technologies - components sourced from TDK & Texas Instruments for the electrical circuit.
Multi Fitment – can be used for anything with a H7, 12V-24V socket!
CANBUS Friendly – designed to work with 99% of CANBUS related vehicles & tested on 2015 Audi & BMW models.
Our Philips LUXEON & also Cree LED kits have been manufactured to the highest standards and quality, which involves UV cutting of the bulbs to prevent damage to your plastic lenses and even water submerge testing to make them not only water resistant but waterproof. These are very high quality LED kits and are not to be directly compared with cheaper alternatives mainly found on auction websites. 60% of our custom is from returning customers who have already tried and tested cheaper 'copies' from the web - especially auction and international sites.
This kit is also designed to work with vehicles, which have CANBUS systems and it has been specially designed for this purpose therefore it will not damage any of your vehicles electronic systems. Our digital ballasts and LED drivers have been exclusively manufactured with in built components and microprocessors, which allow 100% compatibility with any vehicle giving you the best looking OEM LED headlights at an affordable price without any error and warning messages.
Delboy777
Registered user
Would you use both main and dip ?
Nope I'd just go with the main because:
Halogen in the dip and ADV fogs keeps a triangle of the same 'colour temp' light which makes it easier for people to see judge where you are/speed
The Halogen in the dip and fog combo is very effective and easier on your eye if you are doing a lot of night riding - it might not be blue/white trendy but I want light I can use. I use to use Amber filters on my HP2 LEDs for that reason
It means you can keep the dip as high as possible which means the linked main beam can keep its range - look at the amount of GS's with HIDs in the dip that have them pointed at the ground in front of them!!!
The LED in the main which is pointing as far upwards forward as it can has some usefull punch
When you use th flasher the bright white is such a contrast to the halogen triangle you have on dip it really gets noticed - a quick double tap gives a flash lik a speed camera and that does get people's attention
Delboy777
Registered user
Ok thanks for that. I will go for the main only then.
Bendy toy
Registered user
I'm very happy with the light colour of my HID-50 head lamps. They are not as white/blue as most LED lamps but MUCH more effective at lighting the road than halogens they replaced. The main beam actually gives useful additional light. Not something that can be said for the halogen bulbs.
IMO, LEDs at 5,500K would be a lot more useful than the usual 6,500K.
IMO, LEDs at 5,500K would be a lot more useful than the usual 6,500K.
PDiddy
Registered user
Has anyone tried these on an LC GS??
Delboy777
Registered user
My LEDs arrived today so that's my job for the weekend.
BOBAD
Registered user
Really? Most people who think they have just been flashed by a speed camera hit the brakes immediately (as though that does any good) which will slow you down even more ..... How is that any use?
You're thinking but not thinking to much....
I'm posting my experience, if it had been drivers hitting the brakes and slowing me down I'd have said that. I'm not trying to emulate a speed camera, I'm highlighting an observation that the LED is such a contrast to the halogens that it seems to get a quicker response especially when it's a quick double flash.
I don't creep up behind cars and give them a suprise, I'd normally give a flash in advance if the car I've been observing/approaching seems to be in a world of their own.
And I'm saying from my everyday experience that a quick double flash of an LED main beam when the rest of the lights are halogen gets a better response and outcome for me than it did when it was just a halogen in the main beam
Bendy toy
Registered user
Does anyone have problems finding the dip/main beam switch? The finger operated slider on Japanese bikes has always been intuitive for me but after nearly three years with the GS I still fumble with the dip switch.
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