Heated hand grips

[Titto]

The forced update doesn't increase temps. It just gets them up to max temp quickly and stops them shutting off then on then off then on etc. They will still be approximately 20 degrees lower than the previous gen grips, making the lower setting on the bike useless.
They definitely get up to temp quickly as of the forced software update though and is an improvement.

Re the guy from America bikerboy108, he has not provided any proof of anything, merely stated they work and wont provide us with any further details like the dealership that did it and any pre and post temps. Thats not to say it hasn't happened, but I would like some evidence! Something to go back to BMW would be nice wouldn't it.

Anyway, BMW UK will not authorise any 15 grips on an older model, They have replied to me pretty much the same stuff as Drainman got...

 

[mrtee43]

"Anyway, BMW UK will not authorise any 15 grips on an older model, They have replied to me pretty much the same stuff as Drainman got..."

If it is certain that the later grips will not work on the earlier models, then BMW should have some manufactured that do or give everybody whose grips are useless a refund. Did someone mention £250 ?

I'll take that thankyou.

 

[DC]

No idea what the software update does - just know my grips are now hotter

Today Paul, the temps in the outside air were warmer than they have been for some time, this may have played apart in you "thinking " the grips were hotter, They probably weren't, its just the air around your hands were not as cold.

This I am Sure is what BMW will want , The warmer weather to come and then we won't need the heated grips . It gives them some breathing space till next winter.

The forced software update does exactly what has been described on here.

if you took a digital heat reading Of the grip before the update and then after , Im sure they would be the same

 

[Paul S]

Today Paul, the temps in the outside air were warmer than they have been for some time, this may have played apart in you "thinking " the grips were hotter, They probably weren't, its just the air around your hands were not as cold.

This I am Sure is what BMW will want , The warmer weather to come and then we won't need the heated grips . It gives them some breathing space till next winter.

The forced software update does exactly what has been described on here.

if you took a digital heat reading Of the grip before the update and then after , Im sure they would be the same

Well I have given my opinion following my experience today - take or leave it as you choose

 

[Engineer]

This thread is just plain weird - 18 pages about old Tossers with poor circulation tryng to blame BMW - once a few whingers get a bee in their collective bonnets there is no stopping them!

If your hands get cold when riding with the grips on full then get some warmer gloves!

 

[Titto]

He's here again...BMW defender.

And who you calling old?!!!

Seriously though, I've got superb gloves. Never needed others. Use the same for work and have grips on low on those bikes.

I need to have working grips. Plenty of folk don't or hardly use them, for me they are really important. Hardly whinging is it when they alter something that worked fine before, a feature that you pay for, to get a lesser experience?

 

[mrtee43]

Engineer, you are talking shite.

The FACT is the earlier grips do not put out as much heat as the later grips. If there was nothing wrong in BMWs view, then why change them to increase output.

 

[Engineer]

Engineer, you are talking shite.

The FACT is the earlier grips do not put out as much heat as the later grips. If there was nothing wrong in BMWs view, then why change them to increase output.

So what? - LC was a new bike from the ground up and its spec is what it is - did you test ride it? I guess that if the 2016 model makes 150 HP then you'll want free power upgrade too.

 

[mrtee43]

So what? - LC was a new bike from the ground up and its spec is what it is - did you test ride it? I guess that if the 2016 model makes 150 HP then you'll want free power upgrade too.

Talking shite again !

I bought my LC privately with 505 miles on the clock after a brief dealer test ride of about an hour. I did not get to try every feature. I did expect that all the features would work as advertised. If the relative cheap Oxford grips that I installed on my previous two bikes could supply more than enough heat, I expected that a premium marque such as BMW would be at least equal, they are nowhere near. They should be.

And no, you guess wrong. If the 2016 model makes 150 hp I would not want it for free. What I do want are items supplied on the bike to do what a reasonable person would expect, given the premium price of the bike.

In any case, what's it got to do with you. You apparently have a perfect bike, others don't. Your acidic replies must either give you some sort of pleasure or you have an agenda to defend BMW regardless.So in short, if you cannot contribute something positive, then just don't read the thread or just STFU !

 

[Matty589]

I had a 14 plate GS and now have a 15 GSA and the difference in the heat output of the grips is like night and day, to the point where I thought that the original bike's grips were faulty. To sum up the last 18 pages, the heated grips don't work properly until recently. What should happen is that the manufacturer fixes this or compensates owners. This is no different than the RT collapsing shock. This is a premium price £15K bike and £40 Oxford grips get so hot you can't hold them. Facts.

 

[DING-DONG]

. What should happen is that the manufacturer fixes this or compensates owners. Facts.

It sounds like for this model yr it's not fully fixable, I'd opt for the £250 then cut the bm grips off and stick some aftermarkets ones one.

 

[JohnnyBoxer]

This thread is just plain weird - 18 pages about old Tossers with poor circulation tryng to blame BMW - once a few whingers get a bee in their collective bonnets there is no stopping them!

If your hands get cold when riding with the grips on full then get some warmer gloves!

When I test rode the '13 GS WC - I thought the heated grips were feeble, even in summer

That good enough for ya, these good people do have reason to vent their anger

I'd be pissed off that I'd paid £250 for heated grips that clearly weren't fit for purpose

 

[Engineer]

When I test rode the '13 GS WC - I thought the heated grips were feeble, even in summer

That good enough for ya, these good people do have reason to vent their anger

I'd be pissed off that I'd paid £250 for heated grips that clearly weren't fit for purpose

This thread will eventually fade away just like the 'clacks, crunches and can't find neutral' one because the whole thing is subjective - if some dealers want to experiment to help keep customers happy it's up to them, alternatively why don't one of the people with cold hands just buy some 2015 grips and fit themselves and report back, even if BMW won't give them a free upgrade at least they will have warm hands IF it works.

I'm off now because I am bored with this massive molehill.

 

[Godzilla]

This thread will eventually fade away just like the 'clacks, crunches and can't find neutral' one because the whole thing is subjective - if some dealers want to experiment to help keep customers happy it's up to them, alternatively why don't one of the people with cold hands just buy some 2015 grips and fit themselves and report back, even if BMW won't give them a free upgrade at least they will have warm hands IF it works.

I'm off now because I am bored with this massive molehill.

Great, your input wont be missed at all.

 

[JohnnyBoxer]

This thread will eventually fade away just like the 'clacks, crunches and can't find neutral' one because the whole thing is subjective - if some dealers want to experiment to help keep customers happy it's up to them, alternatively why don't one of the people with cold hands just buy some 2015 grips and fit themselves and report back, even if BMW won't give them a free upgrade at least they will have warm hands IF it works.

I'm off now because I am bored with this massive molehill.

Peter Perfect in a Perfect World

13 model year GS WC heated grips are crap...............you know it, I know it

Difference is...............you won't admit it

 

[Titto]

Unreal eh.
And the 2014 RT lc my uncle is having problems with? Bike lurching forward a few inches when being put into first, can't find neutral, that subjective? dealers all agreeing how clunky the new engine box is. Etc.
Jesus you are one hard skinned mofo engineer, just won't have a bad word said against the marque! Quite clearly you are someone who, unless it's happened to you, you just simply don't believe anything else.! Hey ho.

 

[sven]

When I test rode the '13 GS WC - I thought the heated grips were feeble, even in summer

That good enough for ya, these good people do have reason to vent their anger

I'd be pissed off that I'd paid £250 for heated grips that clearly weren't fit for purpose

Damn right - mine's a base model, not a TE with them fitted as standard, so the grips were a £250 extra and they aren't fit for purpose.

I'm a 3 season rider, so I nearly always wear summer gloves or some lightly insulated gloves in sping/autumn as I hate thick gloves. The grips are just to take the chill off as the temperature drops to 8-12 degrees and the low setting is completely useless and the high setting struggles to keep my fingers warm. On my last three BMW's the grips were too hot to use on the high setting at these temperatures for prolonged periods.

 

[Nutty]

It's not just the GS. I was out on my S1000 today (2015 model), and the heated grips are crap. Might have something to do with the wind chill at warp speed!

 

[Dennis the Menace]

Went to exchange my RT today road over Woodhead Pass hands nice and warm, couldn't take the RT, so got a loan K1600, came back over the Snake Pass wind, rain and snow, heated jacket on, heated seat burning my arse (had to turn it down) heated grips on full and the backs of my fingers where so cold it was painful.
The RT grips are kept out of the wind by the mirrors, on the K1600 your hands are stuck out in the wind.
Keep having a go at BMW, there is nothing worse than having cold hands while riding a bike

 

[DC]

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Keep having a go at BMW, there is nothing worse than having cold hands while riding a bike

to take that a bit further its actually Dangerous! when your grips are not as warn as they should be you grip the bars tighter, to get more heat into the hands…Not a good idea as you know …so if any one has a fall due to lack of heat in the grips ….?? wheres theres blame theres a claim