I had no idea where the idiom ‘Held under sufferance’ came from. I had always thought it was holding (looking after) something reluctantly.
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Held under sufferance
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Bit like a Bonded Warehouse then ?
I've been in a few of those in the past to pick spirit's up; you have to be veteted and cleared to go in;
They did'nt look as nice as the one Wappers has posted.
the phrase does have a wider meaning in a number of contexts
as JB has mentioned, a bonded warehouse is the term we currently use, especially for things like whisky. Then there is the notion of a freeport, Thatcher & Sunak's solution to a tanking economy.
as JB has mentioned, a bonded warehouse is the term we currently use, especially for things like whisky. Then there is the notion of a freeport, Thatcher & Sunak's solution to a tanking economy.
Cracking looking building,bet its got some stories.
Indeed. Something most people are familiar with.
I was more interested in the origin of the idiom, its original meaning having all but passed into history.
not very secure is that? the as you likeies will be in there in no time at all...
Indeed.
I came sowf of the river for a wander. Forgetting that it faces north…. Whilst Wapping was bathed in sunshine, I had to hit the pubs, right on the river’s edge to get any sun. Hard life!
Fifteen years ago in the Troodos Mountains.
'Held under sufferance' was a phrase used occasionally by some of the older lags at work. HMRC now use a different term, which for the life of me I cannot remember. Most ports have/had two or more separate lock-ups for seized goods: one big one for general shite; one smaller and more secure one for stuff that would only be released when duty was paid. Anything that remained there for more than a few days was transferred to very secure premises elsewhere, as would the serious smuggled stuff.
I always understood that the term sufferance related to the temporary storage of goods that have yet to be authorised to enter the country by a customs official - the goods were therefore here on sufferance & stored pending clearance. The time goods can be held in sufferance varies, dependant on the commodity, from just a few days with perishables up to a max of around 6 weeks.
On the other hand, bonded refers to the long term storage of goods that have been cleared through customs, where the payment of duty has been deferred pending distribution, but has been assured by way of a bond. IIRC the usual maximum period in bond is 4 years.
On the other hand, bonded refers to the long term storage of goods that have been cleared through customs, where the payment of duty has been deferred pending distribution, but has been assured by way of a bond. IIRC the usual maximum period in bond is 4 years.
I was lucky enough, when on the Edradour distillery tour, to go in the bonded warehouse there.
Some serious moneys worth of whisky
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