Hi Viz Jacket ex Plod
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Just started wearing my Hi-Viz gear this week on my normal commute through London. It certainly gets you noticed more, evidence is people pulling out on you less and drivers letting you through when filtering.
Its not a suit of armour and if risk compensation kicks in, you might as well not wear it.
Its not a suit of armour and if risk compensation kicks in, you might as well not wear it.
Sorry to repeat myself, but, well...
Yes I DO rely on it to keep me safe. Just as I also rely on road skills, brakes, a helmet etc etc.
You can't rely on it, because you don't wear it. Rely then just on whatever else you can. Every little helps. You haven't said what the downside is yet.
My jacket just arrived this morning, so I thought I'd add my 2p regarding sizing etc.
I'm 5'10", 38" chest, slim. With my HG jacket on my chest is 42". I bought the Medium Tall jacket and it's way too big. Thing I'll be needing the small regular so this one will be going back. Just thought I'd post here in case it's of help to anyone else thinking of ordering.
I should add that these jackets are brand new from the look of it, never been worn. Regardless of your views on hi viz, a brand new goretex over jacket for £35 is something of a bargain.
J.
I'm 5'10", 38" chest, slim. With my HG jacket on my chest is 42". I bought the Medium Tall jacket and it's way too big. Thing I'll be needing the small regular so this one will be going back. Just thought I'd post here in case it's of help to anyone else thinking of ordering.
I should add that these jackets are brand new from the look of it, never been worn. Regardless of your views on hi viz, a brand new goretex over jacket for £35 is something of a bargain.
J.
Bargain indeed......have they got any in black?
Indeed they do
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Obsolete-Ex-P...a_RL?hash=item563592290f&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
NorthernBoy
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I'm sure you think it's worked for you. PS - HiVis doesn't work at night.
Because of course, it's every bit as easy to see a matt black jacket at night than a bright yellow reflective one that sends a high proportion of the headlight light back towards the car.
Really, the ability of some people round here to deny reality just to try to prove themselves right is staggering.
Because of course, it's every bit as easy to see a matt black jacket at night than a bright yellow reflective one that sends a high proportion of the headlight light back towards the car.
Really, the ability of some people round here to deny reality just to try to prove themselves right is staggering.
Since when was high vis reflective?
High vis jackets do sometimes have retro-reflective strips that will reflect a light source, but first there has to be a light source. Headlights on low beam will not always shine high enough to catch the strips unless very close.
I've nothing hivis as such - it's a piece of clothing. The main downside is people's strange abilty to use hivis to replace their brain. Much as you do.
I've only seen one smidsy. Luckily the guy picked himself up off the floor.
The first thing he said to the car driver as he pointed to his hivis was 'How didn't you see me wearing this, and I had my light on?'.
He was genuinely amazed that the car driver hadn't seen him. You have the same attitude.
It might have been better if he was genuinely amazed at the cars that do seen him and don't pull out.
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I used to work with a lad who smidsy'ed a biker....who walked away
then complained that he had neither his lights on nor a high viz jacket
the fact that this young lad had written two cars off already did not deter him from this belief that the biker had committed an offence!!!
then complained that he had neither his lights on nor a high viz jacket
the fact that this young lad had written two cars off already did not deter him from this belief that the biker had committed an offence!!!
ELIMINATOR
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Each to their own.If everyone wore hi-viz, the impact would be lost.... excuse the pun!
ELIMINATOR
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Kev, I didn't realise how slimming they made one look! Especially as you is so fat!
Hi-vis handbags at dawn
…posted on this several times in the past. Kept away so far but feel I gotta add my piece as well and add to some ‘experience’ (not perception) from posters above.
Tarka -you usually have some good stuff to say, IMHO on this topic you speak nothing but bololcks.
The word vanity was used above, I will add immaturity to some of the negative jibes going on. Boy bikers bein 'ard is all I see, with some pathetic and insulting comments on those riding capabilities of hi-viz wearers.
I wear a white lid and the HG jacket and put some embarrassing visibility stripes on the black panniers. Knew it would cause 'concern from the fashion conscious' but don’t give a toss what they think.
Visibility is increased front back and sides, I know people are more likely to see me than 'Stealth Rider'. That does not mean everyone, but it does significantly decrease the risk of not being seen. It also allows greater perception of my speed and position by anyone behind me or on approach across peripheral vision. I save the combats for dog walking and deer watching.
We seem to have a dedicated few who are desperate to prove that common sense is in fact more dangerous than stubbornness and extol the virtue of political correctness on the motorcycle catwalk. As far as I know Woody Allen's 'Sleeper' has not been acknowledged as science fact - consequently and regrettably hard drugs are still illegal and smoking still kills despite denial by a few determined but demented souls.
Until someone shows me evidence contrary to my own experience wearing hi-viz and a white hat, I'll continue to allow people to think what they like about who I am – the fact that they are thinking it means one idiot less for me to worry about. I just hope that my riding and clothing suppress some of the ill feeling of other road users towards the shell suited chavs determined to prove that insurance companies are right to load premiums.
… or perhaps this was a rant?..... na, couldn’t be I am too sensible for that…..
Safety Steve 
…posted on this several times in the past. Kept away so far but feel I gotta add my piece as well and add to some ‘experience’ (not perception) from posters above.
Tarka -you usually have some good stuff to say, IMHO on this topic you speak nothing but bololcks.
The word vanity was used above, I will add immaturity to some of the negative jibes going on. Boy bikers bein 'ard is all I see, with some pathetic and insulting comments on those riding capabilities of hi-viz wearers.
I wear a white lid and the HG jacket and put some embarrassing visibility stripes on the black panniers. Knew it would cause 'concern from the fashion conscious' but don’t give a toss what they think.
Visibility is increased front back and sides, I know people are more likely to see me than 'Stealth Rider'. That does not mean everyone, but it does significantly decrease the risk of not being seen. It also allows greater perception of my speed and position by anyone behind me or on approach across peripheral vision. I save the combats for dog walking and deer watching.
We seem to have a dedicated few who are desperate to prove that common sense is in fact more dangerous than stubbornness and extol the virtue of political correctness on the motorcycle catwalk. As far as I know Woody Allen's 'Sleeper' has not been acknowledged as science fact - consequently and regrettably hard drugs are still illegal and smoking still kills despite denial by a few determined but demented souls.
Until someone shows me evidence contrary to my own experience wearing hi-viz and a white hat, I'll continue to allow people to think what they like about who I am – the fact that they are thinking it means one idiot less for me to worry about. I just hope that my riding and clothing suppress some of the ill feeling of other road users towards the shell suited chavs determined to prove that insurance companies are right to load premiums.
… or perhaps this was a rant?..... na, couldn’t be I am too sensible for that…..
Safety Steve 
BeemerBaz
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Similar attitude to myself except I am in still in partial denial by continuing to wear my black helmet !! It does have reflective stickers on it tho
…posted on this several times in the past. Kept away so far but feel I gotta add my piece as well and add to some ‘experience’ (not perception) from posters above.
Tarka -you usually have some good stuff to say, IMHO on this topic you speak nothing but bololcks.
The word vanity was used above, I will add immaturity to some of the negative jibes going on. Boy bikers bein 'ard is all I see, with some pathetic and insulting comments on those riding capabilities of hi-viz wearers.
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Okay..so you`re happy being a Dayglo Derek...doubtless with yer daytime lights on too.
I`m not.
You lot are gradually going to bring in opressive legislation due to the classic Pavlovian Dog syndrome of social sterotyping.
You`ll be happy,no doubt.
I won`t.
Nor will many others.
Ah well....cometh the day I too can nonce about pretending to be a bike cop.
Similar attitude to myself except I am in still in partial denial by continuing to wear my black helmet !! It does have reflective stickers on it tho
A unfortunate train of thought if ever there was......
Shifting the onus and making it our responsibilty to try and make ourselves visible to the blind...... rather than using our own observational and defensive skills while campaigning for better driving standards and harsher penalties for feckless idiots and vehicular homicidal merchants.
BeemerBaz
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Okay..so you`re happy being a Dayglo Derek...doubtless with yer daytime lights on too.
I`m not.
You lot are gradually going to bring in opressive legislation due to the classic Pavlovian Dog syndrome of social sterotyping.
You`ll be happy,no doubt.
I won`t.
Nor will many others.
Ah well....cometh the day I too can nonce about pretending to be a bike cop.
A unfortunate train of thought if ever there was......
Shifting the onus and making it our responsibilty to try and make ourselves visible to the blind...... rather than using our own observational and defensive skills while campaigning for better driving standards and harsher penalties for feckless idiots and vehicular homicidal merchants.
You don't half talk bollox. you make a habit of making assumptions ?
Eh? Can you read?
Why do you KEEP saying that hiviz wearers ride more dangerously ? Doesn't it suggest that we value safet...jeez, I'm bored repeating myself.
Like I said, Vanity. (Well, you never see Ewan, Charlie or Valentino wearing hiviz. And what about my lovely new set of leathers/twat suit - why cover them up? And how will people know how funky, young and cool I am?)
Oh, and yes, are we really re worried about them bringing in legislation? Who's suggesting that? By the way, don't get me started on the helmet law. Political correctness gone mad, I say. Bloody do-gooders in Brussels.
ps "while campaigning for better driving standards and harsher penalties for feckless idiots and vehicular homicidal merchants." GOOD LUCK WITH THAT !!
Well this post so far has contained some of the most bollocks I have ever seen, and no, helmet law was nothing to do with brussells as it came
out befrore they started to put the boot in. As long as the blind can see me comming I'll wear hi viz, and no, Valentino does not need it as they are all going the same way and he's in front anyway. So
all the arm chair riders here just get out and ride a bike (if you have actually got one) and stop theorising.
out befrore they started to put the boot in. As long as the blind can see me comming I'll wear hi viz, and no, Valentino does not need it as they are all going the same way and he's in front anyway. So
all the arm chair riders here just get out and ride a bike (if you have actually got one) and stop theorising.
ovenpaa
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All I can say is thanks for reminding me, my gear has slowly but surely turned me into a MiB (Man in Black) add a black motorbike and it makes for some good camouflage dawn and dusk. So I sent the wife off to find me a HV jacket on eBlag and I am now the proud owner of an ex police Goretex jacket that fits over my existing jacket, is bright, has shiny stuff on it and is waterproof.
HV! - At this rate I will own a BMW next. bugger come to think of I do
In a serious note I have come to the conclusion added visibility (If indeed it works) is a good thing but I will still treat every cage driver as an idiot that wants to kill me, and for me at least HV will be a winter thing only.
PS - 29 quid delivered
HV! - At this rate I will own a BMW next. bugger come to think of I do
In a serious note I have come to the conclusion added visibility (If indeed it works) is a good thing but I will still treat every cage driver as an idiot that wants to kill me, and for me at least HV will be a winter thing only.
PS - 29 quid delivered
Retro reflective tape is different from hivis and I would consider the use of some red tape on the panniers.
Where have I said that?
I say that hivis wearers think hivis makes them more visible. This leads to them assuming they've been seen. If that makes them dangerous, they're generally only a danger to themselves.
You think hivis makes you more visible and you ride accordingly. I think nothing that I wear could make me more visible and I ride accordingly.
How do you know what I wear when I ride? Go on take a guess. My distrust of hivis has feck all to do with vanity.
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