HID headlight converstion

[Whele]

Now the dark evening are approaching extra light would be nice

I am looking for someone with a 650GS who would like a half share in a HID light set-up

The kit is here http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Professional-...ryZ72235QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

The kit is made for two headlights such as a car, but obviously only one is required for a 650GS, so please post or PM me if you would like to go halves.

 

[rc mad]

dude, i'll bite your hand off at that price

i'll pm ya

was looking at the dual tt headlight setup, but it's £200 and it ain't even a hid setup

 

[rc mad]

pm on the way

 

[Richard J]

I thought 8000K was a bit high, 6000 might be better but they don't offer it.

Stil ought to be better than STD though

 

[rc mad]

yea, std's are the worst

Been taking a closer look at the piccys on the auction. Wasn't entirely sure how the system worked. Looks like the selector for low / high beam connects to the existing bulb connector on the bike.

I think we will have to make up (or buy) a loom for the ballast, preferably using a relay to switch power onto the ballast, probably using the sidelight to switch the relay.

Knew i shouldn't have sold that extra tt harness

 

[talltony]

Just wondering,does the ballast have to be fitted close to the h/light ?
I was thinking about where to put it?
Tony

 

[rc mad]

looking at it I'd say the ballast is about 100mm by 80mm (the rear part of the bulb is approx 50mm long) so it really isn't all that big, there should be enough space in the front end to fit that in.

looking at the tt aux hid for the 650 it looks like they put the ballast over the relay box (in front of the battery)
read this it's the installation instructions for the dual light setup for the 650, i'm wanting that setup so bad, doesn't help that i got a early christmas present of £300 today, the tt hid setup is only £420

only problem is only the high beam is a hid light

 

[brassmonkey001]

I bought a HID kit for mine which was much cheaper than that one (see HID Conversion Kit thread in Bargain Forum). I thought I could use half and sell the other half but a Bi-Xenon kit needs a rheostat thing (only one included per kit) to work apparently. The kit you've linked to doesn't appear to list one so who knows? I haven't found time to fit it yet but I think I might have to re-route the throttle cable etc slightly to allow for the motor sticking out of the back of the bulb.
I have emailed the seller (Matin) and talked about doing a single bulb kit and he reckons it would be a little cheaper but not much.
look here

 

[rc mad]

I thought it was all on the back of the bulb

I emailed the seller you linked to, going to be £125 posted for a kit, i haven't heard from Whele yet so i don't know which kit i'l end up getting

Anyway, i'm off to the nec

 

[rc mad]

and I'm back, and unfortunately pulling out of the deal.

I've just ordered a set of TT dual headlights for the dakar, having seen them in the flesh at the show i just couldn't resist buying them.

There goes another 400 notes down the drain

Sorry Whele. Tho if you email martin at [email protected] he will do you a H4 Bi-Xenon kit for £125 including the postage.

 

[brassmonkey001]

I thought it was all on the back of the bulb

I emailed the seller you linked to, going to be £125 posted for a kit, i haven't heard from Whele yet so i don't know which kit i'l end up getting

Anyway, i'm off to the nec

No, the bit on the back of the bulb is just the motor to move the filament back and forth. There's another black box in the setup.

I got around to fitting mine today! It took a bit of lateral thinking to find homes for the gubbins but it's all on and working. I'll see how it performs on the road tomorrow night.

Matin quoted me much cheaper than £125 but I'll need to clarify with him further, it might not be for a Bi-Xenon kit. He's also looking into single lamp kits as well.

 

[Whele]

RC Mad – let me know how the TT unit fits. Are the TT lights both HID for low beam and High beam or do they use one light unit for low beam (HID) and one for high beam (halogen)

I am a little confused with all the various kits.

The link I posted consists of a HID unit and a stepping motor at the back of the unit that adjusts the position of the filament thus giving a smooth transition from low to high beam. This means there is no dark period when switching low to high, normally a HID filament takes approx 10 seconds to fire up and reach maximum brightness.

Cheaper kits appear to have HID low beam and Halogen high beam, but the H4 bulb fitted to the 650GS does not facilitate this.

I will mail Martin and speak with him about the kits.

Still looking for someone to go halves on a kit..............

 

[rc mad]

Sure, i will keep you updated about the kit Only the high beam on the tt unit is a hid beam. the low beam is a H3 DE projector lamp (halogen)

I have a cunning plan tho. With the tt kit the low beam stays on when you switch over to high beam so i am going to replace the low beam halogen with a hid setup, i reckon i should be able to stash the ballast in the front somewhere or perhaps put it under the beak. Not quite sure yet.

 

[rc mad]

whele, just found this kit on ebay, single hid h4 bulb setup (high and low hid beams) for £89 posted, even includes the relay you'll need to switch power through to the ballast. I'd go for the 4300k or the 6000k bulb tho

 

[brassmonkey001]

Well, I've tried Phillips Visionplus 50% brighter bulbs, Osram Silverline brighter bulbs, a PIAA brighter bulb, higher wattage bulbs and nothing even comes close to the improvement HID gives! They literally can't hold a candle to it!

 

[Whele]

whele, just found this kit on ebay, single hid h4 bulb setup (high and low hid beams) for £89 posted, even includes the relay you'll need to switch power through to the ballast. I'd go for the 4300k or the 6000k bulb tho

Excellent, thanks rc mad, just ordered the kit - I will post up my findings when it arrives

 

[Cole]

hmmmm

That doesnt look like a proper bi-xenon kit to me. There is only one burner in the bulb. So you would only get one on at a time ... either dipped beam, or driving beam.

The latest generation true H4 BiXenons look like this ... and have two burners and two ballasts per bulb (just like a halogen H4 has two filaments):