Hilltop ECU remap

[Rockoz]

Hi,

I've been reading up on hilltop motorcycles remapping BMW ECU's and wondering if it's the way to go..
I'm running a cut down Remus with no baffle and no CAT with a Techlusion TFI at the moment but not a big fan of the techlusion and sure the bike runs better standard..

Recon these guys are worth the money?

Thanks

 

[Micky]

Hi,

I've been reading up on hilltop motorcycles remapping BMW ECU's and wondering if it's the way to go..
I'm running a cut down Remus with no baffle and no CAT with a Techlusion TFI at the moment but not a big fan of the techlusion and sure the bike runs better standard..

Recon these guys are worth the money?

Thanks

If you do a quick and simple search you'll find an excellent thread with pages and pages for you to sift through .... your answers lay therein


It took me 10 seconds .... here

 

[Rockoz]

I've now read every post in the 37 page long thread and seen a lot of praise for Geoff but very little information on 1150's......
Anyone got feedback regarding 1150's?
Thanks

 

[B4ndit]

I don't think the 1150 can be re mapped. But I do stand to be corrected.
I got this information from my mate who PCs every bike he gets his hands on and has recently done it to a 1200 he came in possession of. He reliably tells me the 1150 can't be done. I aint bothered anyway. Seems a waste of money to me.
Why not go back to standard. The 1150 isn't a race bike.

 

[Micky]

My son had his 1150GS-A done ..... swears it was money well spent

 

[Micky]

Why not go back to standard. The 1150 isn't a race bike.

Not being a race bike has nothing, absolutely nothing to do with it

The G650XC certainly isn't a race bike but it was money well spent

 

[Bryn]

I don't think the 1150 can be re mapped. But I do stand to be corrected.

You stand corrected

He's done quite a few One of the advantages is that he sorts the fuelling and makes sure it's not running lean ( mine was)

 

[Micky]

You stand corrected

He's done quite a few One of the advantages is that he sorts the fuelling and makes sure it's not running lean ( mine was)

Ditto my 650 Bryn

Now 10mph quicker, 5mpg more economical (approximate figures) pulls much better and cleaner

But not being a race back that's totally irrelevant of course ....

 

[JohnnyBoxer]

You stand corrected

He's done quite a few One of the advantages is that he sorts the fuelling and makes sure it's not running lean ( mine was)

Was your 1150 already standard Bryn?

Before you took it?

 

[Bryn]

Was your 1150 already standard Bryn?

Before you took it?

As far as I know it was indeed standard

 

[JohnnyBoxer]

As far as I know it was indeed standard

Stock exhaust & cat, plus paper air filter then

 

[Rockoz]

Thanks for all the info! As said performance is besides the point really. It's to ensure its not running lean especially with my noisy exhaust also any smoothing out and extra mpg is nice with removing my techlusion..
Can't imagine it'll be rally-able with this noisy pipe though..

 

[B4ndit]

For me. Any engine is built to a standard. Once you start mucking around with the standard settings then you must be aware there might be consequences. I am still not sure what the lean problem is with a 1150. I haven't noticed a major problem with my old machine, maybe somebody could enlighten me. If I had got to a point where my 1150 didn't satisfy me then I would be looking at a different bike. Lets face it a Z1000 (Picked from any one of a number of fine jap bikes) is cheaper and gives a smoother and faster ride. But it ain't a GS.
So map away but you will never get a master of all trades. If it was achievable one of the major manufacturers would have done it already.

 

[Rockoz]

As standard they're lean to get around emissions
With my cut down remus and lack of catalytic converter it'll be silly lean without the techlusion.
It's all down to preference.
I don't wanna have a standard bike. I don't wanna be the same as everyone else...I bet you've got modifications on your bike...? (What are they?)
Everyday I look at different bikes as I like the change. There are better bikes than the 1150 GSA but not for me at this point in time. Next week there might be though..(for the right price of course)
And it's really not about speed. I've got a little jap tonka toy which is quick enough for me but as you say it's not a GS! and that's becomming streetfightered when the money comes
If we we're all the same the world would be a very boring place!!

 

[Steptoe]

I'm sure in the 13 years since the 1150 has been on the road we'd have seen a large problem by now if they run lean, no matter what configeration of exhaust you use.

 

[Rockoz]

Yep but like anything there's always a minority and with a cut down remus I recon I'm bordering it being dangerously lean without any more fuel...plus as I say it'd be nice to have a decent power curve

 

[Green Boy]

Hi all,

Thought there may be some interest in my experience with my 1150 gsa (y-peice and renus revolution) in the hands of Geoff at Hilltop Motorcycles yesterday. First of all the usual disclaimer: I've no interest or connection with Geoff or Hilltop Motorcycles and this is only my opinion etc etc.

Basically I read lots of interesting things on here and called Geoff some months ago to discuss as I'd added an Accelerator Module (?) but realised that this wasn't necessary the best solution. Following our chat I booked and headed up from Southampton yesterday where I met Geoff at his workshop. He a top chap with clearly a wealth of experience in both electronics, engineering and engines. His nitro ZZR 1400 project is an interesting example.

Well he did a first run as a base calibration and worked out that my bike was running very lean at the bottom half of the rev range. The picture below show yer man in his 'office' but doesn't catch a few of the nice jets of flame from the back fires and some exhaust packing!



The new software was then uploaded and several more runs were completed to fine tune the mapping. I must say that all of this was done in front of me and Geoff explained exactly what he was doing and also pointed out that all the runs were done in 6th gear in order for there to be a 'level playing field' both before and after. These results are shown in the dyno print out below:



In short it's not about the figures although they are interesting but more the ride. Firstly there is virtually no vibration through the bars and bike pulls uniformly through the rev range which means that the acceleration feels linear. Basically it feels like the responsiveness of the gear below the one your riding in if that makes sense.

I appreciate that £350 is not the kind of money to be sniffed at but in my opinon and based on my own experience, it was money well spent. The ride back was definitely a blast

If anyone has any specific questions based on my experience then give me a shout. Failing that have a word with Geoff. One word of warning though: whilst he'll make every effort to fit you in, you'll need to book a way off if you want a Saturday as the whole thing takes between 2-3 hours.

All in all very pleased!