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R1200GSAPilot said:
Group Discounts for Sat April 15th. 4 places left.
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John what are the dates in march please. Alternately if none left I'll go with April date please.

Many thanks

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22nd April for me as well please. Bike is being built next week apparently so should be here in mid February.
 
that AFR graph is very interesting, I'm running a stock bike with open pipes and no CAT. I'm sure I must be running the poor thing lean.
 
crotchrocket said:
that AFR graph is very interesting, I'm running a stock bike with open pipes and no CAT. I'm sure I must be running the poor thing lean.
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id say very lean if you've not had any fueling correction...will be a different bike with a remap plus it wont blow up ;)
 
Here's an interesting comparison of a Hilltop Dyno report and a BMW plot for the motor.

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It's a shame that the graph doesn't look anything like BMW say it should, on the before graphs of any GS that's been to Hilltop. Could they be done for false advertising?:augie
 
The Nutty GSER said:
It's a shame that the graph doesn't look anything like BMW say it should, on the before graphs of any GS that's been to Hilltop. Could they be done for false advertising?:augie
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Is it a bit like car MPG figures which are nothing like those achievable in the real world? When BMW state a GS1200 gives 125 BHP is this at the crank or back wheel? My thoughts are that it's at the crank.
 
I think you are correct that the figures quoted are at the crank, never known the corrected figures quoted
 
SteveC10 said:
Is it a bit like car MPG figures which are nothing like those achievable in the real world? When BMW state a GS1200 gives 125 BHP is this at the crank or back wheel? My thoughts are that it's at the crank.
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It's at the crank, and the shaft loses a higher percentance than a chain. Hence the poor "before" figures of any dyno runs.
 
daviedevs said:
I had my old 2013 S10 done at Hilltop.

TBH the figures dont bother me at all..its the rideability. That certainly improved..especially on the twisties in Spain and Portugal.

So the Hilltopping work for me!

FYI before bhp 75 and after 94. At the wheel. Also when touring Europe 2 up fully loaded my mpg went up slightly too!

I will definitely be getting my Eu4 GSA done at some point when there's less salt on the roads!
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That’s odd – perhaps the same make and model of bike can respond differently to Hilltop!. I had my S10 done there, but couldn’t tell any difference whatsoever, so had it de-Hilltopped. But then I didn’t get a 28% power increase... lol. Geoff warned me that it was running so lean it might seize at any moment and required me to absolve him of any responsibility by saying so in front of his CCTV (difficult to believe, I know). I posted my experience at Hilltop on this forum, but had to involve the Police after getting a threatening phone call from him. Not really the kind of person you’d want to do business with.

10K miles later (amazingly it didn’t seize!!) I had it remapped at Track Electronics in Norwich. The improvement was astonishing. They were able to edit all of the fuel and ignition maps for each cylinder in each gear, disabled closed loop and reduced the fuel decelleration cutoff – all things Hilltop can’t do because he doesn’t have the software. Mind you, it did take them over 4 hours and many dyno runs in all gears at all loads (although it cost less than the 40 minutes and 3 pointless dyno runs at Hilltop).
 
papasquelch said:
That’s odd – perhaps the same make and model of bike can respond differently to Hilltop!. I had my S10 done there, but couldn’t tell any difference whatsoever, so had it de-Hilltopped. But then I didn’t get a 28% power increase... lol. Geoff warned me that it was running so lean it might seize at any moment and required me to absolve him of any responsibility by saying so in front of his CCTV (difficult to believe, I know). I posted my experience at Hilltop on this forum, but had to involve the Police after getting a threatening phone call from him. Not really the kind of person you’d want to do business with.

10K miles later (amazingly it didn’t seize!!) I had it remapped at Track Electronics in Norwich. The improvement was astonishing. They were able to edit all of the fuel and ignition maps for each cylinder in each gear, disabled closed loop and reduced the fuel decelleration cutoff – all things Hilltop can’t do because he doesn’t have the software. Mind you, it did take them over 4 hours and many dyno runs in all gears at all loads (although it cost less than the 40 minutes and 3 pointless dyno runs at Hilltop).
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So - you/police were able to narrow down the call ( more than one?) to Geoff?

http://www.ukgser.com/forums/showthread.php/405407-Hilltop-Motorcycles-Remap?p=4158281#post4158281

I'm assuming, based upon your post today - that they called round and had a word with who they proved to have made the call?
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papasquelch said:
That’s odd – perhaps the same make and model of bike can respond differently to Hilltop!. I had my S10 done there, but couldn’t tell any difference whatsoever, so had it de-Hilltopped. But then I didn’t get a 28% power increase... lol. Geoff warned me that it was running so lean it might seize at any moment and required me to absolve him of any responsibility by saying so in front of his CCTV (difficult to believe, I know). I posted my experience at Hilltop on this forum, but had to involve the Police after getting a threatening phone call from him. Not really the kind of person you’d want to do business with.

10K miles later (amazingly it didn’t seize!!) I had it remapped at Track Electronics in Norwich. The improvement was astonishing. They were able to edit all of the fuel and ignition maps for each cylinder in each gear, disabled closed loop and reduced the fuel decelleration cutoff – all things Hilltop can’t do because he doesn’t have the software. Mind you, it did take them over 4 hours and many dyno runs in all gears at all loads (although it cost less than the 40 minutes and 3 pointless dyno runs at Hilltop).
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Each bike must be different then?? I had alot more than 3 dyno runs..in all gears..and the download to the ECU took over an hour on its own. Not sure what you paid for?
 
papasquelch said:
That’s odd – perhaps the same make and model of bike can respond differently to Hilltop!. I had my S10 done there, but couldn’t tell any difference whatsoever, so had it de-Hilltopped. But then I didn’t get a 28% power increase... lol. Geoff warned me that it was running so lean it might seize at any moment and required me to absolve him of any responsibility by saying so in front of his CCTV (difficult to believe, I know). I posted my experience at Hilltop on this forum, but had to involve the Police after getting a threatening phone call from him. Not really the kind of person you’d want to do business with.

10K miles later (amazingly it didn’t seize!!) I had it remapped at Track Electronics in Norwich. The improvement was astonishing. They were able to edit all of the fuel and ignition maps for each cylinder in each gear, disabled closed loop and reduced the fuel decelleration cutoff – all things Hilltop can’t do because he doesn’t have the software. Mind you, it did take them over 4 hours and many dyno runs in all gears at all loads (although it cost less than the 40 minutes and 3 pointless dyno runs at Hilltop).
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Welcome back.:blast
 
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