Hydration packs
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Amazing how the human race ever survived without them !
I've actually got a camelback for skiing, but I don't use it for anything else. Before had it, I just had to stop and drink every few hours or get a bit thirsty. No biggie. The beer always tastes better. (Beer dehydrates you even more doesn't it ?
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Kidneys are amazing organs, and can keep you alive with surprisingly little water. All this hydrate or die stuff; I just don't believe it. It's pleasant being able to drink when you're hot and thirsty, but you ain't going to get sick or or wilt unless you can't actually get any water at all, all day.
All these people carrying bottled water around with them everywhere gives a clue to where it all comes from: companies trying to sell you water. Big business.
Those bushmen in the Kalahari can go for ages without water, and then just cut open a cactus, suck out a few mls and carry on.
I've actually got a camelback for skiing, but I don't use it for anything else. Before had it, I just had to stop and drink every few hours or get a bit thirsty. No biggie. The beer always tastes better. (Beer dehydrates you even more doesn't it ?
)Kidneys are amazing organs, and can keep you alive with surprisingly little water. All this hydrate or die stuff; I just don't believe it. It's pleasant being able to drink when you're hot and thirsty, but you ain't going to get sick or or wilt unless you can't actually get any water at all, all day.
All these people carrying bottled water around with them everywhere gives a clue to where it all comes from: companies trying to sell you water. Big business.
Those bushmen in the Kalahari can go for ages without water, and then just cut open a cactus, suck out a few mls and carry on.
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The Kalahari bushmen could also be blindfolded and driven around in circles in a Landrover, taken hundreds of miles from where they started and instantly know the EXACT direction back.
They would spear an animal and follow it at a fast trot for days until it died and then eat 5kilos of meat each at one time and bodily carry the rest of the carcass back to the camp.
They evolved and adapted to one of the harshest climates on earth over many generations.
Me, I take my £15 from blacks water pack with me. A sip every hour or so keeps me going as far as I need.
They would spear an animal and follow it at a fast trot for days until it died and then eat 5kilos of meat each at one time and bodily carry the rest of the carcass back to the camp.
They evolved and adapted to one of the harshest climates on earth over many generations.
Me, I take my £15 from blacks water pack with me. A sip every hour or so keeps me going as far as I need.
GlobeBusters
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We always use water bags when touring and used them on both world records. Dehydration is one of the biggest things that riders underestimate when riding long distances, even when it is not hot. Better to take small sips as you are riding, then gulp loads down at a break stop and then have to pee 30 minutes down the road. This technique ensures you keep a clear head, stops headaches and helps with concentration.
We have used both CamelBak and Platypus bags (within a MacPac carrier). Prefer the Platypus because you fill it from the top and could stand on its own, whereas the CamelBak filled at the side and had to be held.
Using the Platypus inside the MacPac is great - the MacPac has other compartments for storing light stuff too. Think the MacPac with Playpus bag retails at £49.99.
We have used both CamelBak and Platypus bags (within a MacPac carrier). Prefer the Platypus because you fill it from the top and could stand on its own, whereas the CamelBak filled at the side and had to be held.
Using the Platypus inside the MacPac is great - the MacPac has other compartments for storing light stuff too. Think the MacPac with Playpus bag retails at £49.99.
Vendome 41
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Hydration pack
Took the plunge
Bought a "CELERT Hydro-Cruise Pak" 2 ltr bladder from Oswald Bailey £16.99
WEB site www.OutdoorGear.co.uk
Will report after european trip taking place in july
Took the plunge
Bought a "CELERT Hydro-Cruise Pak" 2 ltr bladder from Oswald Bailey £16.99
WEB site www.OutdoorGear.co.uk
Will report after european trip taking place in july
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Nope.....that's one of those health nanny myths.....
You drink 8 pints, you piss 6 pints.......ergo, you are 2 pints of liquid better off.
Alcohol is an astringent though.....but that's a different story.
If you're stuck in the desert with only a tanker of beer to keep you alive and your mate says he's not going to drink it cos it'll dehydrate him, guess who'll come out alive?
I KNEW beer could only be good for you !!
Exactly the same kidneys as you an me, mate. And I've got maps and a GPS with the location of every petrol station for 800 miles around. I'm no bushman, but finding water isn't usually a problem where I live.
ralphy
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gasman said:
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I don't think the issue is finding the water; it's actually drinking it before you become de-hydrated!
In my case, I was trail riding in the mountains of Andorra and had bottles of (tap) water with me in the rucksack. However, I failed to drink the water - and as a result became de-hydrated. Kalahari bushmen may be able to shrug off the effects; I certainly didn't............................
BawdyMonk
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Nice, but needed?
I had a 350+mile ride on Wednesday and spent as much time as possible out in the open hills, it was bloody HOT.
Every 60-90 minutes I stopped for a petrol/pee/snack/drink or photgraph, during which time I necked as much water as possible, which I carry in either my tankbag or topbox along with a picnic chiller block to keep it cool, what's the advantage in having a 2kg+ rucksack (which I'd have to refill more than once anyway) on my back in the middle of a hot day?
I've suffered dehydration and because of where I live I'm probably more aware of it than many, but the only use I can see for these things is if you're really fully loaded and can't possibly squeeze in a 2 litre bottle of water.
I had a 350+mile ride on Wednesday and spent as much time as possible out in the open hills, it was bloody HOT.
Every 60-90 minutes I stopped for a petrol/pee/snack/drink or photgraph, during which time I necked as much water as possible, which I carry in either my tankbag or topbox along with a picnic chiller block to keep it cool, what's the advantage in having a 2kg+ rucksack (which I'd have to refill more than once anyway) on my back in the middle of a hot day?
I've suffered dehydration and because of where I live I'm probably more aware of it than many, but the only use I can see for these things is if you're really fully loaded and can't possibly squeeze in a 2 litre bottle of water.
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rocks
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Namibia 1996 - ROASTING
If you want hot,, went to Namibia geological mapping in the "badlands",.. Doros crater and the Huab.. amazing part of the world.. but blooming hot. I bought a camel back for walking around with..
It rocked, well worth the cash. The bladder sadly died due to abuse back in the uk, but if you riding a long way.. why not. They are not too costly, lots of reps of camel backs and its not like the weight will make any difference.. then you have the choice..
I have seen severe sun stroke,, never had it myself. i was born in Rhodesia (now zimbabwe), so fairly clued up on sun stroke.
It catches you quick and you can convince your self your not suffering.
ALSO!.. one thing people forget.. when you put your helmet on, you naturally change your breathing pattern. This can sometimes cause you to breath faster, or hold your breath,, depending on the person, and with this, you change the amount of water you expell in your breath..
When i ride around north wales, i am normally tired at the end of the day, and few glasses of water and i start to feel better..
Also
Coffee = Diaretic..
Tea = Diaretic..
Fizzy drink = Diaretic..
Water : Hydrative..
Water + Squash = Diaretic due to sugar in it.., so keep it weak.
If you want hot,, went to Namibia geological mapping in the "badlands",.. Doros crater and the Huab.. amazing part of the world.. but blooming hot. I bought a camel back for walking around with..
It rocked, well worth the cash. The bladder sadly died due to abuse back in the uk, but if you riding a long way.. why not. They are not too costly, lots of reps of camel backs and its not like the weight will make any difference.. then you have the choice..
I have seen severe sun stroke,, never had it myself. i was born in Rhodesia (now zimbabwe), so fairly clued up on sun stroke.
It catches you quick and you can convince your self your not suffering.
ALSO!.. one thing people forget.. when you put your helmet on, you naturally change your breathing pattern. This can sometimes cause you to breath faster, or hold your breath,, depending on the person, and with this, you change the amount of water you expell in your breath..
When i ride around north wales, i am normally tired at the end of the day, and few glasses of water and i start to feel better..
Also
Coffee = Diaretic..
Tea = Diaretic..
Fizzy drink = Diaretic..
Water : Hydrative..
Water + Squash = Diaretic due to sugar in it.., so keep it weak.
grandtrousers
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Hein Gericke
Just bought a 2 litre jobby from them (£19.99). Slips very nicely into the back pocket of my Master IV suit and am looking forward to fully road testing in July when we go to Garmisch Partenkirchen and beyond for our European tour. I have also filled it with John Smiths bitter which is great for hands free drinking when attending a barbecue- now all I need to perfect is a place for a bong so I can smoke whilst riding as well!!
Just bought a 2 litre jobby from them (£19.99). Slips very nicely into the back pocket of my Master IV suit and am looking forward to fully road testing in July when we go to Garmisch Partenkirchen and beyond for our European tour. I have also filled it with John Smiths bitter which is great for hands free drinking when attending a barbecue- now all I need to perfect is a place for a bong so I can smoke whilst riding as well!!
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